ICE1
@comcast.net
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Re: What!?!?!?!?
We all have something to hide.....our personal information...privacy rights....do I need to say more? I wouldnt want the FBI or any government agency browsing thru my network. Have you forgotten that we are living in a country where you are guilty to proven innocent. |
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ff1324
Everybody Goes Home
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On Four Day | reply to localhost
I'm not talking about keeping your computer secure. I'm saying, if you have nothing to hide, why the suspiscion of the investigative agencies?
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join:2005-01-19
Cypress, CA
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when your ISP shuts off your internet connection because you have been sending unsolicited emails, then maybe you'll figure out why you need security.
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PL11x15eq165
join:2002-07-05
Ladera Ranch, CA
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I can't argue with that, you're right.
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damox
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join:2002-01-07
Olympia, WA
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There's a huge difference between wanting to protecting ones freedoms, and considering law enforcement the "bad guys". I'm all for watch dog groups who work to insure that our rights and freedoms are being protected, but law enforcement is there to protect me from criminals. That is not to say that there are not some criminals who masquerade as law enforcement, and that is not to say that law enforcement is perfect, because obviously there are criminals who hide behind a badge and law enforcement agencies do make mistakes, but overall, law enforcement is for our good, they are not our enemies.
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PL11x15eq165
join:2002-07-05
Ladera Ranch, CA
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said by damox  :Yeah, in this country, unless you're a criminal, or you just happen to be into anarchy, law enforcement is the good guys, unless of course you've been watching too many of those movies where law enforcement is portrayed as the bad guys! I'm sorry, but my freedoms are much too valuable to protect by faith alone. I'll opt for separation of powers, enforcement of the Bill of Rights, and send a check to the ACLU every year to help me keep an eye on people or orgainizations or government employees who might possibly (and sometimes DO, in fact) cut the corners of my rights as a United States citizen in their enthusiasm to execute the laws of this land. The "only the bad guys have to worry" method of protecting personal rights has been shown to be not sufficient time and time again, throughout history.
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RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | reply to ff1324
It's called right to privacy  |
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rodoke
join:2003-10-28
Carbondale, IL
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said by ff1324 :What do you have to hide?... So, what are you hiding? To the "I'm innocent, why aren't you?" "defense", I'll only say [c]omrade, there are no innocents in a world with the F.B.I. and Carnivore. |
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ff1324
Everybody Goes Home
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join:2002-08-24
On Four Day
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said by deepblackmag :wtf bill, they arent the good guys. If they are breaking into your network its probablly to toss u in jail for 10-15 hard time. What do you have to hide? They can look at my computers all they want. They'll find firefighting pictures, about a billion pictures of my kid, saved MOHAA games, and emails from my parents, coworkers, and college friends.
Yeah, I've got a lot to hide there....
So, what are you hiding?
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damox
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Olympia, WA
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said by jwersan :The FBI are good guys???? I don't think so!!! Yeah, in this country, unless you're a criminal, or you just happen to be into anarchy, law enforcement is the good guys, unless of course you've been watching too many of those movies where law enforcement is portrayed as the bad guys!
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
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wtf bill, they arent the good guys. If they are breaking into your network its probablly to toss u in jail for 10-15 hard time. If the wardrivers do it, its to check their mail. and if the kiddiots do it, its to steal ur credit card (which ur CC company will refund to u)
Out of all of these options, WHO would you like cracking into your network. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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Good is a relative term.
In this instance, it was a demonstration of capability. It wasn't charges showing up on your bank statement.
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
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join:2001-12-09
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They are the good guys compared to others who could be cracking your network. |
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jwersan
R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, and Max.
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Port Jefferson Station, NY
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| The FBI demonstrated this attack to the computer security professionals at the ISSA meeting in order to show the inadequate protection offered by WEP. It is one thing to read stories of WEP being broken in minutes, but it is shocking to see the attack done right before your eyes. It was fast and simple.
Thankfully, the FBI are the good guys.
I love this comment at the end of the story...
The FBI are good guys????
I don't think so!!! |
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