kukur
join:2003-10-29
Saint Maries, ID
| Net Equalizer AP?
Just saw this on their website...
»www.ereleases.com/pr/20050330005.html
We just implemented their unit to help shape traffic, if this new integrated system would be good or not. |
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robbin
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX | If anyone wants to get the details, here is a link for the AirEqualizer Access Point. |
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Hydro27405
join:2004-12-31
Stillwater, MN | reply to kukur
Thats a WRAP board, in the picture they show it with the Ascendance sticker in it. ascendance.net
Thats the same one I have at my main tower running StarOs.
Hydro |
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VariableARK
join:2003-03-17
USA | reply to kukur
any1 tried it yet? |
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DejanCDN
join:2004-11-17
Kuwait | Could it be they just added some application to StarOS to handle bandwidth shaping better? |
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astormchaser0
join:2003-10-28
Lafayette, CO
| Hi guys..
The AirEqualizer offered on the Ascendance Board, and we will intergrate with all Linux compatible radios. We have done quite a bit of work to get bridging , firewall and routing stable in this release. It is not based on Staros... we have taken careful pains to bundle the Equalizing Technology into the unit.. we were getting quite a few requests from customers using our stand-alone Netequalizer to push the technology into an access point, hence the birth of this offer. We have a couple more Beta customers coming on line shortly .. no problems so far but we want to make sure before GA...
Regards
Art |
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI | Any time frame on availability? I know 2nd quarter 2005, but we would really like to get our hands on one..We are rolling out WRAP based APs and would love to integrate the extra features... |
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amerigowire
join:2004-07-27
Vacaville, CA
| reply to kukur
advantages
Is the equlaizing technology integrated with the radio to help with the RF issues or is it simply an AP with equalizing added on to ethernet food chain? What would be the advantage over an AP hooked to a netequalizer? Cost non withstanding
Thanks
B |
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bito
Premium
join:2001-10-08
Atlanta, GA | reply to astormchaser0
Re: Net Equalizer AP?
When you say "with all Linux compatible radios", do you mean mainly StarOS/MT, or with radios based on propietary linux configs?
Caleb |
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superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| said by bito  :When you say "with all Linux compatible radios", do you mean mainly StarOS/MT, or with radios based on propietary linux configs? Caleb Yep!, That would be an important question, as I have a bunch of "Linux compatible" radios laying around that I would LOVE to find a Linux config file for that need some "bandwidth shaping" and other goodies.:D
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| reply to kukur
Looking at their descriptions since they mention layer 3 and higher, it seems their system is not at the RF level, also since they support most any client it would appear that it isn't at the RF level.
As to linux radios, I have a feeling is that they mean any pcmcia,pci or mini-pci radios that have linux drivers for them. Basically this appears to be something similiar to MT or StarOS but with a more advanced QOS and bandwidth management system.
The big advantage I can see having the netequalization done in the radio is that you push the bandwidth management out of the NOC and into the field where it belongs.
As most people running BW management in the NOc know, you can still have your network be brought to a standstill with UDP traffic. |
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amerigowire
join:2004-07-27
Vacaville, CA
1 edit | at the cpe
Still needs to be at the CPE ultimatly to prevent the standstill of someone transmitting to much.... AP's at the CPE is a good start, but a PPS setting would be nice to.. A bazillion PPS even tho 200k will still jam it up too |
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA | reply to kukur
Re: Net Equalizer AP?
I agree, to me a good system will allow for throttling at the CPE so that the over air bandwidth isn't monopolized. |
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kukur
join:2003-10-29
Saint Maries, ID
| reply to amerigowire
Re: at the cpe
I can see the better implementation being at the CPE, but wouldn't that create higher (almost impracticle) CPE costs for the unforseeable future?
One BWM per AP is much more cost effective now. But I would love to see the day where BWM is in the CPE for $200. |
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bito
Premium
join:2001-10-08
Atlanta, GA | Actually, the OSBRiDGE radios do that (BWM, nothing too fancy but it works). You can get them direct or through US distributors. Info is on their site.
Caleb |
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astormchaser0
join:2003-10-28
Lafayette, CO
| reply to amerigowire
Re: advantages
The Airequalizer pushes congestion control right out to the access point. Doing this near the edge allows you to prevent brown out at the AP... if one user is dominating the AP getting too much the unit will correct by throttling that user so it will alleviate gridlock at the tower. Putting a NetEq at the head end will reduce gridlock on your trunk but an individual tower could still get slammed... it will also provide a means of insuring voice traffic get priority at the AP
There are many possible other positive corollary's to this approach, but before I blab too much I want to finish our live beta trials.
Regards
Art |
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astormchaser0
join:2003-10-28
Lafayette, CO
| reply to kukur
Re: Net Equalizer AP?
Couple of other answers ... sorry for not getting back sooner.
As to the question as to whether this solution should be at the CPE or not, there will be some definite benefit based on our initial trials although the total effect is not something we can make outragous claims about yet.
From our bandwdith experience we know thaat with the exception of Malicious virus applications most every application that is sending data will SLOW down their data rates, if we throttle the data flow at the AP. We can do this from the AP with AirEqualizer , hence a CPE customer that is getting more than fair share will be detected this way..
1) We will have a threshold for total bandwidth allowed at the AP before we kick in (exactly where to set this threshold may take some more testing ) but let's say we set it to 2 megabits ..
2) When the total traffic at the AP gets to 75 percent of the threshold (1.5 megabits) airequalizer will look at all indivifual traffic flows.. the larger flows will be dynamically throttled.
3) The applications causing the larger flows will back off providing room for applications running at customer sites that perhaps do not have as strong a signal and were previously being squeezed out.
As far as availability we will be GA by the end of may.. if you have a big need we can provide for a few more beta customers ... till then
Art |
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