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vic102482
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Re: Wish Me Luck!!!

I downloaded and installed on one of my PCs went without a hitch, I screwed up the root password (accidentally rebooted when it was asking me to setup root password) so I am reinstalling now. The GUI is functional and I am also working my way around the command line. I know officially:

Halt
init 6

lol that is as far as my skill set with unix goes. I didnt do the autonetworking and I have some drivers I ned to load. This sould be a pretty interesting day, the next time I post it should be from the solaris box.:p
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vic102482
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»www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/flop···ris.html

Okay so it is installed, Ive downloaded the drivers for my computer and I have them on a floppy but I cannot get it to work. Ive searhce and come up with the above link.

The volcheck command makes it recognize the files, and I hear the CDrom drive spin up, but the disk drive doesnt do anything. The floppy directory under root remains empty as well. I cannot get it to recognize, I tried to format the floppy in the hopes that it was the file system, but the light just flickers for a second or two, and nothing shows up.

Does anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong?:(

The volcheck command only seems to see the CDrom drive, and the floopy does not respond ot a volcheck command at all. IN the GUI if I try to open up floppy drive, its asking me to format and under the /vol/dev/rdiskette0 directory. I thougth solaris could read FAT? Ive tried to reformat it but to no avail.
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timcuth
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I believe you have to mount a cdrom after you put a disk in the drive. Not as simple as Windows, but not too bad. I have the details at the office, but not here at home.

I need to log in to the office, anyway. I'll look it up and let you know.

Tim
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timcuth
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Sorry, I was wrong, I was thinking about mounting it as an NFS share so I could access it from another host.

With a CD in the drive, just try
cd /cdrom/cdrom0
ls -l

Tim
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Darkk

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reply to vic102482
All you need to know:

»www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/flop···aris.htm

If you've got access to a *nix machine, do format the floppy using the *nix format (usually EXT2). DOS format of a floppy is a M$ standard, and not applicable in the Unix/Solaris/Linux world, though most systems can read a DOS formatted disk (Linux and Solaris included.) Use the *nix machine to grab the files and dump them on floppy if you have to.

Otherwise mount the files as described.

If you still can't see them, look for something wrong with the floppy.

Sounds like you just forgot to mount the floppy.



nixen
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reply to vic102482
vold won't see the floppy if the vold.conf is not correctly configured to do so.

Perhaps your first task is `man vold`?

You could also try manually mounting it.

-tom
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nixen
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said by Darkk:

Unless you're running this in an environment that needs Solaris 9, you do know that Solaris 10 is out and free for personal use?
While 10 is out as a GA-type release, until they start shipping media, it may or may not be in final release state. Also, if the point is to learn Solaris with an eye towards getting a job doing it, you aren't going to be finding Solaris 10 in production. Even Solaris 9's only about 50/50.

said by Darkk:

As to a GUI...

Solaris admins don't use that word.
Unless they're trying to manage Directory Server or a number of other applications/services that are horrible to try to manage without the GUI.

said by Darkk:

Get familiar with the Solaris CDE before you go trying to load some other window manager like KDE or Gnome.
Meh... Even Sun's moving towards removing the Crappy Desktop Environment from Solaris. Why hamstring yourself just for some noble sense of suffering.

said by Darkk:

As to running Windows apps on Solaris... my advice is to forget it.
Were he doing this on a SPARC system, I'd say, "go get a Sun PC-II" card.

-tom
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vic102482
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Hoy I am about done with this thing lol.

Ive installed the drivers (uncompress and tar -xvf commands) Ive gotten the system to recognize it (I think) and now the ifconfig command isnt working correctly. Thats what I get for foolin around with it, the whole system is locking up, it looks like I will have to reinstall.

Oh well alot learned in one day, who knew I could get a unix box to crash on itself.:p

Also yeah I use the command line almost exsclsuvly. Things like browsing for files and such would be next to impossible without the desktop enviornment however, but the utlitiles and stuff are scattered across so many folders, its just easier to use desktop in combo with shell.

I guess Ill just have to keep toying with it. Can anyone help me with ifconfig. Ive searched around, and read the man file, but it seems that Im still missing something.

All I want to do is configure a static ip.

Ive got this down so far:

ifconfig io0 plumb
ifconfig io0 192.168.1.199 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig io0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 (produces error)
ifconfig io0 up

then from there I cant ping anything or see anythign on the network.
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nixen
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said by vic102482:

Can anyone help me with ifconfig. Ive searched around, and read the man file, but it seems that Im still missing something.

All I want to do is configure a static ip.

Ive got this down so far:

ifconfig io0 plumb
ifconfig io0 192.168.1.199 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig io0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 (produces error)
ifconfig io0 up

then from there I cant ping anything or see anythign on the network.

  • Edit /etc/inet/hosts: put an the IP you want to assign to the interface in the first column and the logical name you'd like bound to that IP in the second column
  • Edit /etc/netmasks: put 192.168.1.0 in the first column and 255.255.255.0 in the second column.
  • Edit /etc/hostname.io0: put in the hostname you entered int /etc/inet/hosts

At this point you can do a couple of things: 1) reboot and the system should come back with the IP bindings you want; or, 2) execute ifconfig io0 plumb `cat /etc/hostname.io0` netmask + broadcast + up.

Doing option 2 does essentially what happens at reboot.

-tom

ps. You COULD also configure your interface to do a DHCP request at boot.
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vic102482
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Thanks alot! I went to configure the netmasks file, and it comes back as "error broken link" Im pretty sure thats also what is locking up the solaris box. Im going to reinstall, and follow these directions, also I will toss out my gigabit adapter for one of my old nic cards that I have laying around.

The adapter name was "lo0" when it shoud be somehting like "hme" I think lo0 is only a logical or system adapter, hence the 127.0.0.1 ip addresses, and every example of IP configuration that I have seen includes that, plus multiple addresses.

Also there is an abscense of hostname.* files.

I guess this is what unix is all about, tinkering and learning:p. I tell you even though I got basically nothing done, I did learn an assload about the OS itself. I want to eventually put up a SPAMASSASSIN box just for the heck of it.
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solid7

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reply to vic102482
No windows emulators avaialable for Solaris? I've used windows emulator for AIX for years. (but only for applications that couldn't be migrated)

I'm no expert, so please forgive me. It just may be a thing worth checking into.



nixen
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said by vic102482:

The adapter name was "lo0" when it shoud be somehting like "hme" I think lo0 is only a logical or system adapter, hence the 127.0.0.1 ip addresses, and every example of IP configuration that I have seen includes that, plus multiple addresses.
Heh.. thought you'd typed IO, not LO. LO is the loopback virtual interface. HME is a SPARC architecture network driver. x86 NICs tend to have different names (my 3Com was like a elxl)

said by vic102482:

Also there is an abscense of hostname.* files.


They only exist if you configured networking as part of the OS install (and you have recognized NICs).

-tom
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vic102482
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said by nixen:

said by vic102482:

The adapter name was "lo0" when it shoud be somehting like "hme" I think lo0 is only a logical or system adapter, hence the 127.0.0.1 ip addresses, and every example of IP configuration that I have seen includes that, plus multiple addresses.
Heh.. thought you'd typed IO, not LO. LO is the loopback virtual interface. HME is a SPARC architecture network driver. x86 NICs tend to have different names (my 3Com was like a elxl)

said by vic102482:

Also there is an abscense of hostname.* files.


They only exist if you configured networking as part of the OS install (and you have recognized NICs).

-tom
Thanks alot for the tip. Id thought id hate it but this is alot of fun. Slowly learning and worming. Im going to print out your earlier post and take that home with me. I skipped the networking install during the OS installation, and the DHCP so I could do all this stuff the "hard" way.:p (heh Guess Im paying for it now):P

Hopefully I will have this taken care of tonight.

And you are correct, the "HMO" name was an example I saw, I did another search and the 3com came back as elxl for one of the other examples. Ha, so I was trying to assign a network IP to something that wasnt even there:p.

Thanks for all of your help mate. Now hopefully my next reply to this thread will be from my solaris box.:)
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said by vic102482:
I skipped the networking install during the OS installation, and the DHCP so I could do all this stuff the "hard" way.:p (heh Guess Im paying for it now):P
The way I look at it, you did it the "smart" way. Look at how much you are learning that you never would have know existed.
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vic102482
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SUCCESS AND DAMN it feels good. After 3 days of fighting with this bastard of a machine, I got the nic running, and Im coming to you live (well live until the end of this posting anyways) and direct from a solaris box on x86.

I had to swap 3 different nics before I found one that the OS would recognize. It seemed that the driver for one of the nics never worked int he first place (I had to use a pkgadd -d . "package" command, and that didnt register correctly with the kernal once it got to the end of its script.

The card is an integrated 3c950.

For anyone else having this trouble:

I wiped the OS started over, and found one that was on the HCL, and boom, then did the ifconfig elxl0 plumb-up etc.etc. followed Ferricoxides directions, with the addition of the /etc/news.conf file (to configure a name server) and the nsresol.conf file for DNS server. (Sorry I forgot already, but I know it when I see it lol).

This is great, next I move onto star office. Three questions,

first how do I power off the machine?

Is it shutdown -f? halt and init 6 only reboot it.

secondly, if I straight boot into concosle mode, how do I switch to the desktop mode?

And lastly how do you download with this netscape? When I try to download the file it comes up as all text in the screen, and I cannot save the file as anything.(produces errors) What should I do? I tried ftping directly to the site, but I cannot seem to find the package (or anything for that matter).:(

That was a hell of a learning experience, but the files are so spread out thats what makes it alot more difficult. You basically tell it everything, subnet mask, route metrics, default gateways the whole 9.

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vic102482
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Thanks alot. Also that bz2 extension at the end, how many compression programs do they use, tar, bz2, zip, rar man o man!:p
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nixen
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said by vic102482:

I wiped the OS started over, and found one that was on the HCL, and boom, then did the ifconfig elxl0 plumb-up etc.etc. followed Ferricoxides directions, with the addition of the /etc/news.conf file (to configure a name server)
/etc/resolv.conf

said by vic102482:

and the nsresol.conf file for DNS server. (Sorry I forgot already, but I know it when I see it lol).
/etc/nsswitch.conf

said by vic102482:

first how do I power off the machine?

Is it shutdown -f? halt and init 6 only reboot it.
The recommended ways would be init 0 (or, possibly, init 5) or shutdown -y -g0 -i0.

If you have enabled UFS logging, you could always be rude about it and just push the power-off button.

said by vic102482:

secondly, if I straight boot into concosle mode, how do I switch to the desktop mode?
Execute /etc/init.d/dtlogin start.

said by vic102482:

And lastly how do you download with this netscape? When I try to download the file it comes up as all text in the screen, and I cannot save the file as anything.(produces errors) What should I do? I tried ftping directly to the site, but I cannot seem to find the package (or anything for that matter).:(
You should be able to right-click on the file-link and select "Save Link As" or somesuch.

At any rate, the first thing you'll wanna do is grab yourself a copy of Firebird. The Netscape that comes with Solaris 9 is a 4.x version and most sites don't work real well with it. You can either get it by way of a link off the Mozilla site or you can grab a copy off of Sun Freeware.

You'll likely also notice that a lot of sites you go to will be hard to read: text will be excruciatingly small. You can fix this by resetting the X-server's default DPI setting.

  • Create the /etc/dt/config directory
  • Copy /usr/dt/config/Xservers to /etc/dt/config
  • Edit /etc/dt/config/Xservers and add -dpi 100 to the line that looks like:

    :0 Local local_uid@console root /usr/openwin/bin/Xsun :0 -nobanner

  • Stop and restart your Xserver (logging out should provide sufficient reset)

said by vic102482:

That was a hell of a learning experience, but the files are so spread out thats what makes it alot more difficult. You basically tell it everything, subnet mask, route metrics, default gateways the whole 9.
Most standard configuration files are in /etc, so, not TOO spread out. Now, once you start dinking with non Sun-supplied packages, that's when config files get spread out.

-tom
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reply to vic102482
"init 5" shuts down the machine and powers it off, if the hardware supports it. If it doesn't power it off, you should be able to shut off the power at the last prompt.

"init 0" takes you back to that last prompt without powering off.

"init 6" is shutdown, then restart.

Tim
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nixen
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reply to vic102482
Oh, just a quick note, since noone else's said it yet: create a regular user account and log in with that, not root. When you need to make changes to the system, su to root.

Running around as root on a Unix system can cause you the same kinds of problems (or worse) as being logged in on a Windows system with an account that has full administrator privileges.

-tom
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