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Re: theft! A person accessing my wireless network for use of internet might be reasonably considered theft of service if I didn't allow it. If I do allow it, it's at most breach of contract with my ISP -- and in my ISPs case, it's not even that.
Yes, the cable companies have gotten laws passed which (in their opinion) make just about everything theft -- for instance if you call to disconnect cable, and they don't do so, they call that "passive theft". But those laws don't apply to Internet service, so things aren't quite as silly there. |
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 cacrollEventually, Prozac becomes normalPremium
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Martinez, CA | said by russotto:A person accessing my wireless network for use of internet might be reasonably considered theft of service if I didn't allow it.
If you don't adequately protect your wireless LAN, you'll be damn lucky if all that you experience is theft of service. And if the leach doesn't cause you to exceed your cap, which is the only way you could be inconvenienced, you're not losing anything, so again, I don't think that's theft either. |
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Freehold, NJ | said by cacroll:said by russotto:I don't think that's theft either. Well, really depends on how the TOS is written, most say you cannot share the connection outside of your own home. So if you share it with a neighbor technically it would be theft. No different than going into an all-you-can-eat buffet and paying for one person, but having 2 people eat from the same plate. --
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cacrollEventually, Prozac becomes normalPremium
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Martinez, CA | said by JoshNJ:said by cacroll:said by russotto:I don't think that's theft either. Well, really depends on how the TOS is written A TOS is a civil contract. Theft, which involves loss of physical property, is a criminal charge. Big Cable can write their TOSs all they want, they are writing contracts, they are not writing criminal law. Sharing your network connection may be a TOS violation, and you (the connection owner) may get TOSed. But neither you, nor the leech, can be brought up on criminal charges for Theft. Due diligence requires that you, the connection owner, secure your connection. By not doing so, you invite a civil charge of contributory negligence. » www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9026080 |
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| said by cacroll:A TOS is a civil contract. Theft, which involves loss of physical property, is a criminal charge. Incorrect!! There are states that have Theft of Service Laws, theft does not have to be of property to be a crime in these states.
»www.uslegalforms.com/lawdigest/l···ices.htm
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Such laws generally classify the crime as a misdemeanor or felony according to the value of the services stolen. Specific amounts vary by state. Local laws should be consulted for specific requirements in your area. The following is an example of a state statute dealing with theft of services:
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Its not theft?
someone is paying for that cable bandwidth.
who cares cable companies are trying to find more ways to make money on such nonsense.
so If I let my friend use my phone to call someone he is stealing?
hey Im paying for my cable service and If i got 8 computers hooked up to a router and it is using a shared cable ignal then so friggin what.
its not like each computer is using 1.5 meg of bandwidth?
they are sharing the 1.5 meg bandwidth. |
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