rtcpenguin
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join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA
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| [Rant] vBulletin Blows [Rave] DSLr Owns
Can anyone else not tolerate vBulletin software?
It's slow, has too many graphics, and just generally sucks. I've noticed more and more vBulletin forums blocking searches because "each time somebody searches for something, vB has to go through a couple MILLION threads looking for those exact search terms. It can handle one person searching. It can handle one hundred people searching. It can not, unfortunately, handle a couple thousand people searching at once. If we were to let everybody search, there would be no forums left because the database server would take its own life by throwing itself onto the I-5." Is the DSLr search algorithm just that much better, or do we have supercomputer servers or something?
At DSLr, I can view pages of a thread 100 posts at a time, the most I've seen in a vBulletin forum is 30-40. Even phpbb is better, and thats free! Also, the software here has the really useful post tracker, post votes, and buddies page, which are all very useful. With vBulletin, if I want to come back to a thread, I basically have to bookmark the thing.
If justin  coded all of this software, he deserves an award or something. His software is better than that piece of crap vBulletin which is sold to thousands of sites for $85+.
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CortelyouQ
join:2005-01-18
Brooklyn, NY | That's something I've noticed. This has to be the fastest site of its kind on the entire web. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | reply to rtcpenguin
DSLR Forums are def. top notch. As a moderator for a large vB Community, it's such a pain in the ass. |
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vobguy
A fool with a tool is still a fool
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join:2003-01-21
Mineral, VA
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I am AMAZED at this site's performance.
I am on one site (albeit a phbb one) that is private. The most users online ever was 277. I imagine many more concurrent users on this board. That board is at a crawl much of the time. And that one is a PAY site ( a radio show insider board)
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rtcpenguin
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Fairfax, VA
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| said by vobguy :I am AMAZED at this site's performance. I am on one site (albeit a phbb one) that is private. The most users online ever was 277. I imagine many more concurrent users on this board. That board is at a crawl much of the time. And that one is a PAY site ( a radio show insider board) Indeed. If you check out the main forum page (»/forums/all) you'll see in the upper right that there are usually about 1250-2000 users online, but I'm guessing that number has been up past 4,000 or 5,000 at some point.
I guess modperl is just that fast.
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Hall
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join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | reply to rtcpenguin
I am most familiar with this site and it's forum software (from a user's standpoint) and maybe am biased against others but after using others for long enough now, I can confidently say they suck compared to this site's. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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It also depends on how the site is designed and what it is running on. I've visited some sites that have been designed cleanly with vBulletin, DBSTalk for example. Other sites have so much extra garbage that it takes ever for the page to load up. AutomotiveForums.com is this way. They have banner ads all over the place and every one of those ads gets queried to an outside server.
Many vBulletin servers are just regular or basic PCs. DSLR is ran on multiple dedicated machines specifically tasked to be a database server, web server, image server, etc.
vBulletin also was designed to be customizable with a variety of different configurations, layouts, features, and extensions. As such, it gets a lot of bloat that could be eliminated with a dedicated piece of software custom written for a single site. Think of vBulletin as a minivan. Decent to haul stuff around in and gets you from A to B in an acceptable amount of time. It doesn't hold as much as a dump truck or get you there as fast as a race car, but it still works.
Many forum owners also don't have the time/patience/skill to custom write or at least adapt custom code for their own use.
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Hall
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join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | reply to rtcpenguin
How many people have tried searching other forums, get no results, then try another search ... and get a message about having to wait "X" seconds between search attempts ?? |
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PageTurner
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join:2004-08-16
US | reply to rtcpenguin
I used to frequent a vBulletin site. It was to big of a PITA with all the glitches, so I quit going there. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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said by Hall :How many people have tried searching other forums, get no results, then try another search ... and get a message about having to wait "X" seconds between search attempts ?? How many times have have you done a search here to learn that the main search engine database is down and you have to use the alternate backup?
Or try doing a search for a post/thread here from more then a few months ago. Try to find your very first post here. I bet the search page just returns you back to the search page. At the several vB forums I'm a member at, I had my very first post within a matter of a few seconds.
The time limit in vB is a configurable option set by the operator of the board. This prevents people from doing several searches within a very short period of time that can really drag down a single processor server making the entire site crawl.
Again, it really is hard to compare a commercially operated professional board like DSLR to one that is essentially ran as a hobby.
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rtcpenguin
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Fairfax, VA
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| said by cdru :said by Hall :How many people have tried searching other forums, get no results, then try another search ... and get a message about having to wait "X" seconds between search attempts ?? How many times have have you done a search here to learn that the main search engine database is down and you have to use the alternate backup? I dont know, like twice in the last year?
said by cdru :Or try doing a search for a post/thread here from more then a few months ago. Try to find your very first post here. I bet the search page just returns you back to the search page. At the several vB forums I'm a member at, I had my very first post within a matter of a few seconds. Well, first of all, DSLr does trim threads, so I doubt many of our first posts are even still archived. Also, if youre trying to find an older thread, use the "All Time" search option instead or the recent one. I can easily find my old threads if I know what I titled them or can identify a few keywords in them.
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | reply to rtcpenguin
Also, the search here doesn't search within the past few days. At least, it didn't when I last checked. |
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rtcpenguin
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join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA
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| said by ssj4android :Also, the search here doesn't search within the past few days. At least, it didn't when I last checked. It does. I just tried it and found a post from one hour ago.
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