gtidsl
join:2000-07-29
Morristown, NJ
|  It would be nice... BUT
In Verizon territory if they find out you are using "dry pairs" for data they will disconnect the line. Not to mention you are screwed if there is voltage or bridge taps on it - hence DSL wont work if thats the case and they wont modify the line either (unless you pay the install guy off).
Id be selling this left and right if I could.... |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | So you just hire some muscle to convince them that it's in their best interest to keep the pair in place.
Sillyhead.
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broadbndgeek
Premium
join:2000-08-03
Graham, WA |  reply to gtidsl
»www.foen.net is doing the something, except running ETTH. 100Mbps FDX to everyone.
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skwahl
join:2000-11-13
Marietta, GA | broadbandgeek,
What is the story behind FOEN? Their page has no information at all. What are they and where are they?? |
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Anon | it is fake, no such thing |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | reply to broadbndgeek
It's so nice of you to pull everyone's leg like that.  |
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newisp$
join:2001-06-08
Orleans, VT
| reply to gtidsl
I live in Verizon territory and we use "dry pairs" with no
problems. We have used Elastic Networks and Netopia routers
in a back to back configuration. Bridge taps are no problem
but coils will stop you dead (hence the 18,000 foot from the
CO limitation).
Remember to order a IDSN capable circuit (not a BANA) as the
term implies data. We have several running at this time with
no real problems to speak of.
One more thing, this is not new news. Marlon at odessa.com
wrote about this at least three years ago. He was doing it
back then. Glad to see PBS has caught up with him! |
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Verizon Land
@198.138.x.x
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I am Verizon Land as well, and they will not disconnect if they find you are using dry pairs for data. You are paying for the pairs, you can use them for what you want. It's a very good idea actually, and it would work if it's put together right. |
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fscavo2
join:2000-04-24
Irvine, CA | reply to newisp$
FYI, I am the original spotter of the Cringley article. Cringley himself already noted the Marlon article in his links page for his article. It is at »www.odessaoffice.com/sdsl.htm |
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verizonlover
join:2001-06-13
Portsmouth, NH | reply to gtidsl
that is not true. Verizon does not disconnect dry pairs if you run data on them. This is how HarvardNet ran their DSL in my town. |
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Anon | reply to gtidsl
FYI, It would be nice if you had dsl, let me tell you the parameters of dsl. First of all DSL can work over dry pairs that has voltage on it, just depends on who your Local DSL provider is. DSL will not work if you have load coils on your line, excess bridge tap (sometimes a bridge tap of a 100 feet can affect your line depending how well conditioned your line is) and footage has it's issue (it would depend on the length and also take in a big consideration what the guage is on the wire). And the terminology "dry pair" is just referring to companies outside of your local loop that using their copper line (your local company)without the dial tone on it. In other words a pair of wire with no dial tone on it. Which it doesn't really matter because DSL works @ a much higher frequency than your voice line (which has voltage on it). |
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