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salzan
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CCleaner Removes Flash security settings?

I know CCleaner is recommended on these forums regularly so I'm posting this for the security minded folks. I've been using CCleaner for a few months. I'm using version 1.19.105 and noticed this problem with the previous version as well. So far the program performs well in most instances. I have noticed lately though, since setting Macromedia's Flash security settings, that CCleaner flags the .sol files used to store the settings. I can't do a cleanup without resetting these settings. The Macromedia files are by default located at:

C:\Documents and Settings\Current User\Application Data\Macromedia\Flashplayer\macromedia.com\support\flashplayer\sys\#macromedia.com\settings.sol

Has anybody else noticed this or know how to stop the removal? And no, I don't want to disable Flash, I know how to do that.

This will also be posted at the CCleaner forums and if I get a solution there, I'll post back here.


parputt
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Couldn't you just go into CCleaners settings: Applications/Multimedia and uncheck Macromedia Flash Player? That way it "should" not mess with Macromedia at all.
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tke711
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reply to salzan
You could just un-check Macromedia Flash from the options in CCleaner.

Granted, it won't clean anything out of the program then, but also won't clean out the .sol files.

Edit: Parputt beat me to it!
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anon101

@cox.net

reply to salzan
I would say it's a problem with CCleaner. It looks like they are removing ALL .sol files.
They should only be removing .sol files in the #SharedObjects folder.
The settings.sol in the sys folder should not be removed.



salzan
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reply to parputt

said by parputt:

Couldn't you just go into CCleaners settings: Applications/Multimedia and uncheck Macromedia Flash Player? That way it "should" not mess with Macromedia at all.
Thanks, that does work and I can set disk storage to 0 in the Flash settings to stop buildup. The remaining issue is that while I don't play Flash games, my daughter does, some have not performed well with the settings to 0. I guess I'll just have to fool with it...:)

Edit: Still, anybody running CCleaner with the default settings will be removing the .sol files. (assuming they've set up security in Flash)


salzan
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said by anon101:

They should only be removing .sol files in the #SharedObjects folder.
It is possible to set up a custom folder in advanced settings to add the #SharedObjets folder, I'll try that and see if anything breaks.
Edit: Well, tried the #SharedObjecs folder and unfortunately, CCleaner will not delete the new folder that's created within under a new name after going to a Flash enabled site.


anon101

@cox.net

Best bet would be to copy and rename the "settings.sol" file in sys folder to something like "settings.sol.bkup" and then run Crappy Cleaner to clean up all the files.
Restore the settings by copy and rename bkup to "settings.sol".
This should work until Crappy Cleaner gets fixed.
Try it out. Good luck.



salzan
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said by anon101:

Best bet would be to copy and rename the "settings.sol" file in sys folder to something like "settings.sol.bkup" and then run Crappy Cleaner to clean up all the files.
Restore the settings by copy and rename bkup to "settings.sol".
This should work until Crappy Cleaner gets fixed.
Try it out. Good luck.

Yeah, but it kind of screws up "simple automatic cleanup" doesn't it?


anon101

@cox.net

was just a suggestion

You should really contact Crappy Cleaner about it. Seems like a minor fix to me. Shouldn't be too long until they release new fixed version.

In the meantime, good luck with whatever options you choose.



salzan
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said by anon101:

was just a suggestion
I understand and appreciate it. Thanks!

I do have a post at their forum but have not as yet received any replies. Gotta love BBR!
»forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?sho···ntry6551


IJHYU

@algx.net

reply to salzan
I use CleanUp!. It's never messed with Flash settings.

»home.comcast.net/~sgould4567/sof···cleanup/



bcool
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reply to salzan
I don't know what intrigues me more, your findings or the fact that I didn't have a clue that there were security settings for Macromedia flash that could (should?) be tweaked by the user. I'm off to find out more about these "settings."

EDIT: Ok, I see. duh... And in fact there is now a settings.sol file in the specified location. Cool. Thanks for the heads up.


SUMware
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FYI: Flash Player Settings Manager



jabarnut
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reply to salzan
Heheh....yes. Some time go, I remember seeing the "Flash Player Settings Manager" referenced to above.

After seeing what I thought were some nice "Screen Shots" of the "manager", I remember thinking to myself..well, that's just fine and dandy, but where the heck is that darn thing located on my computer???

Then I realized you could make the actual setting changes right there on the Web Page.
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salzan
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It also saves settings for specific sites in separate folders. It really is pretty neat. I never would have known where this was or how it worked either if I hadn't been trying to figure out what CCleaner was wanting to remove before letting it do it.

I tried playing aroung with CCleaner's .ini files but was unable to get it to do anything any better with respect to these files. Still waiting for a response at the CCleaner forum....


jabarnut
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Yes thanks salzan See Profile...I've actually looked around in there before too.
Can't remember why specifically, but I would venture to say that some people reading this thread may find, as we did, a bit more about the Flash settings than they knew existed!
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dadkins
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reply to salzan
Not sure what it is doing exactly, but after running CC and all files are removed, once I go to a Flash page(read Comcast.net Home), the SOL file is back in there.

Unsure if the settings are changed.



salzan
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If you right click on any flash object on a given site the settings manager should pop up. Then a new folder is created and you create a profile for that particular site. The .sol file in the sys folder seems to be the global Flash settings. The only settings that are preserved for the individual sites seem to be the camera access settings. If you click on advanced in the little popup, it takes you to the Macromedia site where you can set more options but i'm confused as to whether or not they apply to the site you started out at.

Edit: I think flash recreates the sys .sol file as soon as you visit a Flash enabled site. However, if you've run CCleaner, the options are all set to default.



dadkins
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Eh, as long as I can play those stupid Pengu Flash games I'm cool!

Thanks salzan!



salzan
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said by dadkins:

Eh, as long as I can play those stupid Pengu Flash games I'm cool!
:D You're welcome.

I also don't think this is an earth shaking problem, but for now, I'll just set CCleaner to ignore the Macromedia App. I don't think this is currently a major attack vector but I'd rather have the settings remain. Perhaps the CCleaner folks will fix this though.

According to this from the Macromedia site, the storage and other settings are maintained on a per site basis if you set them up individually: »www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/fla···003.html

"All of these features are secured per domain in a method that is even more secure than browser cookies! That is, the user has to set their options for who can use access their webcam and mic, as well as how much information can be stored on their hard drive on a per domain basis. One domain can not read information stored by another, period."

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