beyondthedoor
@comcast.net
| Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Dear Friends,
I would like to give you the address of my websites, which talk at length about the Pay-Pup and Netbux scams which have been running for about one month as of now. Confronted with the facts, there is no way that anyone could believe these are truly reliable businesses (no matter whether the owners intended them to be when they began). The business plans simply do not work, and the fishy nature of everything about the sites is very disturbing.
»www.paypupscam.com
»www.netbuxscam.com
If you like them, please link / blog them on your sites, so that Google will give these the top reading for paypup scam & netbux scam searches, if not paypup & netbux themselves! |
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO | Thanks for the sites, I've been seeing Netbux referral spam EVERYWHERE, even on DSLR (which the mods then quickly nuke). |
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| What makes me curious is what's the point of this "scam"? Clearly cheating the advertisers isn't working, and a few thousand from the people buying referrals is pocket change, why? Was this just a failed attempted to create a semi-legit business (like 180solutions)? Did they really think the advertisers wouldn't catch on to their scheme? Or was it all a scam for the referral money? If it was a scam from Day 1, didn't they realize that there's a paper trail a mile long and it would be nearly trivial for anyone who knows the slightest thing about law to track them down?
It might not be a bad idea to add a section to your site on how to track down these people and sue them when the the victims of this scam realize they are not going to get paid.
If this is a scam, is sounds like one of the most braindead scams ever. Mugging infants for candy would likely be more profitable, simpler and safer than this. |
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netpayscam
@218.111.x.x | reply to beyondthedoor
thank for the info...:D
i also not believe their can pay that much for member..
that two site now always down...
so i think is better find a legit on to earn more better..:p |
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removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs:
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I'm tired of all the Netbux crap. Every other AIM message I get has someone begging me to sign up.
I signed up for it earlier, just to play with it, and some boob emails me and starts harassing me about making him money:
From: aaron@chplaptops.com [mailto:aaron@chplaptops.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:32 PM
To: removed@removed.us
Subject:
don't forget to do your 40 searches on net bux it really works and it's a great way to make money
I told him to FOAD, and he sent this:
-----Original Message-----
From: aaron@chplaptops.com [mailto:aaron@chplaptops.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:51 PM
To: removed
Subject: Re:
what;s wrong with what i wrote i was just tryin to get my referrals to do
theiur searches so i can get paid
Apparently he "bought" me as a referral. That's just lame. These Netbux guys blow chunks.
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AIM | irc.removed.us - #dslr | Give me a ring: 718-606-4100 |
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beyondthedoor
@comcast.net
| Did you know that when you signed up, their policy said that they will never give out any information? 
In the last few days they changed the part about giving out your email address, since they finally realized that people were figuring out that their privacy policy was a lie.  |
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pleekmo
Triptoe Through The Tulips
Premium
join:2001-09-14
Manchester, CT
clubs:
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Re: Hint, Hint!
I'll give you all a little hint: If it requires referrals, it 's a scam. Referral IDs are the clue that the entity is a type of MLM, or pyramid scheme. When you see a "marketing" site require referrals you should get a mental image of a scam. There should be no real reason for a legitimate marketing scheme to require referrals.
There are very occasionally a legitimate reason for referrals. For instance, I believe the "Spread Firefox" movement uses referrals to track how the Message is spread.
When you see a referral requirement you should get a mental image of a scam. |
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pstation
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Indianapolis, IN | reply to removed
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Hey, you should be happy, some random fool on the internet just paid $3 for you. |
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removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs: | He sure wasted it.  |
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ | reply to beyondthedoor
/me goes there to do one too.
(btw, that's in IRC form too) |
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Ben_Long
@dsl-w.verizon
| reply to beyondthedoor
beyondthedoor,
I would consider linking to your pages, but you'll need to get some sources and evidence to back up your points.
I have been doing online advertising for 4 years. I completely agree that their business plan does not work. No respectable advertiser would ever do business with them at their rates because the traffic is junk.
I would like to see an end to these sites soon so that less people will have their time and money taken. But please get some evidence on your sites.
Ben
www.lostmouse.com
P.S. It looks like their working with StormPay right now. I wonder how long that will last? |
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removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs:
| As Karl Bode  said before, it looks to be similar to the JuiceBoosted scam from July 2004.
Except with this one, people are actually spending money on the scam. Morons (like the guy who bought my account) will spend a few dollars in hopes of getting more morons to put money in their pocket. $1 spent by 5 or 6 people is nothing... but then you think about how many morons must be buying other morons. The moron count really goes up!
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AIM | irc.removed.us - #dslr | Give me a ring: 718-606-4100 |
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netpayscam
@218.208.x.x | reply to beyondthedoor
pay-pup email address also not work coz i send mail to the pay-pup admin but the mail bounced back to me with the reason no such address...!!:o |
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hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA | reply to beyondthedoor
These sites aren't asking for any money, and they aren't selling anything. I don't see how they intend to make money. Maybe they are they harvesting confirmed email addresses/leads for other schemes |
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removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs: | You're able to buy others' accounts on Netbux... |
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jonez
Got Anime?
Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA | IT WORKS IT WORKS!!!!
got my stormpay transfer today!!!
just kidding |
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beyondthedoor
@qwest.net
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I'd be glad to link to info, except that their sites' "terms" keep changing, and obviously some of the info is based upon occurrences which happened, and are not documented (i.e. I learned through talking to the owners anonymously or saw on pages which are now edited or no longer exist). If anyone has documented proof, screenshots, conversation, cached pages, or ANYTHING from the history of either one of these sites, please email me at info@netbuxscam.com. Thank you.
p.s. Yes, i am using a different ISP now. |
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netpayscam
@219.95.x.x | reply to hoyleysox
netbux & pay-pup use mny pop-under and if u scan u pc with anti virus & anti-spyware & anti-adware..u will find many trojan, virus, spyware & adware...!!!
almost 100+......:o |
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
3 edits | reply to beyondthedoor
yes, the McAfee on here detected some trojans on the netbux site, I'm wondering if this guy opened it in an attempt to put trojans on computers?
[one minute later] edit: it's most likely an attempt for money I'm sure, maybe a trojan. but anyway I'll get more info on that trojan and give you the links.
edit: I couldn't get the trojan again, but I do know there is a trojan on that site. the netbux and paypup things are MOST LIKELY scams.
some more info:
I think I might go do some searches, etc. until I get $50 (the minimum). I doubt I can get that far, but then we can prove this is a scam, once and for all.
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Thanks,
Eddie |
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Theres Back
@elknet.net
| reply to beyondthedoor
Guess where I found this forum/chat site, doing Pay-Pup searches! I LOVE NetBux.org and I LOVE Pay-Pup.com and they are back now again! It's a great way to find search keywords that I would be looking for anyways! The big search engines are all organized right on those two sites and I can easily go check whatever I am looking for anyways and simply use either one of those two sites and find them easily.
I have earned quite a bit at Netbux as well as Pay-Pup and yes, I even spent some money of my own hard-earned cash buying member referrals.
Highly Recommend both of those sites! |
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