beyondthedoor
@comcast.net
| Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Dear Friends,
I would like to give you the address of my websites, which talk at length about the Pay-Pup and Netbux scams which have been running for about one month as of now. Confronted with the facts, there is no way that anyone could believe these are truly reliable businesses (no matter whether the owners intended them to be when they began). The business plans simply do not work, and the fishy nature of everything about the sites is very disturbing.
»www.paypupscam.com
»www.netbuxscam.com
If you like them, please link / blog them on your sites, so that Google will give these the top reading for paypup scam & netbux scam searches, if not paypup & netbux themselves! | |
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 salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Thanks for the sites, I've been seeing Netbux referral spam EVERYWHERE, even on DSLR (which the mods then quickly nuke). | |
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 | salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams What makes me curious is what's the point of this "scam"? Clearly cheating the advertisers isn't working, and a few thousand from the people buying referrals is pocket change, why? Was this just a failed attempted to create a semi-legit business (like 180solutions)? Did they really think the advertisers wouldn't catch on to their scheme? Or was it all a scam for the referral money? If it was a scam from Day 1, didn't they realize that there's a paper trail a mile long and it would be nearly trivial for anyone who knows the slightest thing about law to track them down?
It might not be a bad idea to add a section to your site on how to track down these people and sue them when the the victims of this scam realize they are not going to get paid.
If this is a scam, is sounds like one of the most braindead scams ever. Mugging infants for candy would likely be more profitable, simpler and safer than this. | |
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netpayscam
@218.111.x.x | thank for the info...:D
i also not believe their can pay that much for member..
that two site now always down...
so i think is better find a legit on to earn more better..:p | |
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| I'm tired of all the Netbux crap. Every other AIM message I get has someone begging me to sign up.
I signed up for it earlier, just to play with it, and some boob emails me and starts harassing me about making him money:
From: aaron@chplaptops.com [mailto:aaron@chplaptops.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:32 PM
To: removed@removed.us
Subject:
don't forget to do your 40 searches on net bux it really works and it's a great way to make money
I told him to FOAD, and he sent this:
-----Original Message-----
From: aaron@chplaptops.com [mailto:aaron@chplaptops.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:51 PM
To: removed
Subject: Re:
what;s wrong with what i wrote i was just tryin to get my referrals to do
theiur searches so i can get paid
Apparently he "bought" me as a referral. That's just lame. These Netbux guys blow chunks.
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beyondthedoor
@comcast.net
| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Did you know that when you signed up, their policy said that they will never give out any information? 
In the last few days they changed the part about giving out your email address, since they finally realized that people were figuring out that their privacy policy was a lie.  | |
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| pstation
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Indianapolis, IN | Hey, you should be happy, some random fool on the internet just paid $3 for you. | |
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clubs: | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams He sure wasted it.  | |
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| i386
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Tucson, AZ | I sent aaron@chplaptops.com a nice e-mail. Told him that he could get into legal shit. LOL. | |
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| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Looks like chplaptops.com is going to be a similar site... like freeipods and the like. Yawn.
The Interweb has too many of these sites as it is. Silly kids.
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pleekmo
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| I'll give you all a little hint: If it requires referrals, it 's a scam. Referral IDs are the clue that the entity is a type of MLM, or pyramid scheme. When you see a "marketing" site require referrals you should get a mental image of a scam. There should be no real reason for a legitimate marketing scheme to require referrals.
There are very occasionally a legitimate reason for referrals. For instance, I believe the "Spread Firefox" movement uses referrals to track how the Message is spread.
When you see a referral requirement you should get a mental image of a scam. | |
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | /me goes there to do one too.
(btw, that's in IRC form too) | |
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Ben_Long
@dsl-w.verizon
| beyondthedoor,
I would consider linking to your pages, but you'll need to get some sources and evidence to back up your points.
I have been doing online advertising for 4 years. I completely agree that their business plan does not work. No respectable advertiser would ever do business with them at their rates because the traffic is junk.
I would like to see an end to these sites soon so that less people will have their time and money taken. But please get some evidence on your sites.
Ben
www.lostmouse.com
P.S. It looks like their working with StormPay right now. I wonder how long that will last? | |
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| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams As Karl Bode  said before, it looks to be similar to the JuiceBoosted scam from July 2004.
Except with this one, people are actually spending money on the scam. Morons (like the guy who bought my account) will spend a few dollars in hopes of getting more morons to put money in their pocket. $1 spent by 5 or 6 people is nothing... but then you think about how many morons must be buying other morons. The moron count really goes up!
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netpayscam
@218.208.x.x | pay-pup email address also not work coz i send mail to the pay-pup admin but the mail bounced back to me with the reason no such address...!!:o | |
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hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA | These sites aren't asking for any money, and they aren't selling anything. I don't see how they intend to make money. Maybe they are they harvesting confirmed email addresses/leads for other schemes | |
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clubs: | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams You're able to buy others' accounts on Netbux... | |
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jonez
Got Anime?
Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams IT WORKS IT WORKS!!!!
got my stormpay transfer today!!!
just kidding | |
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netpayscam
@219.95.x.x | netbux & pay-pup use mny pop-under and if u scan u pc with anti virus & anti-spyware & anti-adware..u will find many trojan, virus, spyware & adware...!!!
almost 100+......:o | |
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beyondthedoor
@qwest.net
| I'd be glad to link to info, except that their sites' "terms" keep changing, and obviously some of the info is based upon occurrences which happened, and are not documented (i.e. I learned through talking to the owners anonymously or saw on pages which are now edited or no longer exist). If anyone has documented proof, screenshots, conversation, cached pages, or ANYTHING from the history of either one of these sites, please email me at info@netbuxscam.com. Thank you.
p.s. Yes, i am using a different ISP now. | |
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i386
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3 edits | yes, the McAfee on here detected some trojans on the netbux site, I'm wondering if this guy opened it in an attempt to put trojans on computers?
[one minute later] edit: it's most likely an attempt for money I'm sure, maybe a trojan. but anyway I'll get more info on that trojan and give you the links.
edit: I couldn't get the trojan again, but I do know there is a trojan on that site. the netbux and paypup things are MOST LIKELY scams.
some more info:
I think I might go do some searches, etc. until I get $50 (the minimum). I doubt I can get that far, but then we can prove this is a scam, once and for all.
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Theres Back
@elknet.net
| Guess where I found this forum/chat site, doing Pay-Pup searches! I LOVE NetBux.org and I LOVE Pay-Pup.com and they are back now again! It's a great way to find search keywords that I would be looking for anyways! The big search engines are all organized right on those two sites and I can easily go check whatever I am looking for anyways and simply use either one of those two sites and find them easily.
I have earned quite a bit at Netbux as well as Pay-Pup and yes, I even spent some money of my own hard-earned cash buying member referrals.
Highly Recommend both of those sites! | |
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| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams You haven't earned shit til you've gotten the money.
Post back with proof that they've sent you money via PayPal (or whatever the hell they're using now) and then we'll believe you. Until then, it's a scam.
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Anon user
@ntl.com | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams lol it is quite ironic, i was trying to find those 2 websites to warn my friends about this scam....and i searched for them on netbux.org | |
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henk1988
@tiscali.nl
| you can try this site
»www.netbux-owned.6x.to
They have an online script for netbux and paypup. It means you dont have to do anything accept running that script. It save and cant be detected.
So check it out | |
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AdrianaLisa
@218.111.x.x
| How come 6 of my buddies got payed =p. twice =p. I saw cheque too so I have no comment. My eyes wont lie  . One of em jus got 86 bux thats the highest but hey. Even though they dont invest and nor do I.. its still a good way to get good cash. In terms of business plan.. You guys might just be out of date =p | |
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DAKMOR
@aol.com | The guy above is probably working for them. | |
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DAKMOR
@aol.com | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Sorry about that,misread the forum.
Anyway, I am glad I found this,I will share it with my friends. | |
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securitysam
@range81-153.btcentra
| looks like pay-pup has fucked off with my cash.
did not even have 1 payout with them and i bought like 10 referals.
why dont I listen when people say scam?
because of all the other morons shouting this is great I been paid once, now im gonna buy a shit loada refs and then they bugger off.
If you got deceived, submit full details of the Web Site details information with your e-payment confirmation and file a complaint email to the followings to alert the relevant authorities of the Internet Fraud:
1. Internet Fraud Coordinator: ifcc.tp@fbi.gov.
2. International Web Police: Director@Web-Police.org.
3. ISP Provider; abuse@........ (refer to Step One, search the abuse email contact of ISP Provider /and IP Address belongs to…and complaint of web site Network abuse).
4. Locate authority (refer to web Registrant station address, search on Internet to locate of country authority; such as “address/state police” or “(country) government authority”.
5. E-gold Service & CC to Web Site Owner.
The Authority information sites for 1, 2 & 3 are:
»www.web-police.org/
»www.ifccfbi.gov/
»www.scamwatch.com/
»www.fraud.org/
hope that helps guys, make sure everyone reports these jerk offs:D | |
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| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams said by securitysam:
why dont I listen when people say scam? Greed. Everyone wants to make some easy money. Unfortunately, sometimes the deal is so good that one ignores the little voice(s) that say(s) "don't do this, you idiot. It's a scam."
This is - unfortunately - why so many get burned by 419 scams. (and, well, other scams)
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i386
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2 edits | that's a fucking lie. he has no payment info so until then (as removed said), it's a scam. I don't see a way this could not possibly be a scam.
btw, they're using stormpay | |
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | Heh, yeah, seems like it. But they say something about "redoing our codes" or something. But freeipods was legit (and still is). Next one I want to get is the mini mac. I love mac. | |
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | I dunno though, this *might* not be a scam. Though chances aren't that likely. I am working with someone to help me figure this out (he has paypup on the $50 mark, so we'll be able to figure it out fast). | |
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| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams said by i386 :I dunno though, this *might* not be a scam. Though chances aren't that likely. I am working with someone to help me figure this out (he has paypup on the $50 mark, so we'll be able to figure it out fast). Well, if it ain't, I'll start Googling.
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guest_
@rr.com | more suspicious arises: the link to the supposed copyright holder's page (Kryotek Media »kryotek.com) has only one link, which incidentally leads right back to netbux. | |
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | I'm pretty sure it is though. | |
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clubs: | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams Me too. If it sounds too good to be true... | |
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guest_
@rr.com
| i think i've figured out how it works.
i've noticed from searching around for the past hours that netbux seems to have a routine of switching policies at the last minute before it's pay-time. this would explain why i've seen a different rendition of the "policies" that netbux has each time i go to another site that has something to do with netbux, including their own site. in addition to that, i've seen user stats of netbux (of the ones that post clips of them to forums and such) that say $500 earned, $500 to be paid, $0 paid. also, it interests me that there is such a large dispute over whether or not netbux is acutally a scam, and i believe this in and of itself can be used as proof that it is a scam because there wouldn't be this large of a dispute all over the internet about whether or not netbux is a scam if it really weren't. also, i think it's pretty funny that a so-called legitimate company supplies links to buy illegitimate modchips for gaming platforms, not that im saying this proves it is a scam or not, but it is extremely fishy and does work enormously to discredit the legitimacy of this operation. | |
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | Also, chplaptops.com -- the founder of Netbux! That aaron guy seems to be someone named 'mrcore', with the real name of 'Tim Core'. Since he has a Netbux referral link in his signature (go to their "Temporary Forums" at the stupid chplaptops thing). | |
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i386
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| Nope, he's not, and I've confirmed that. He appears to be the founder of "Netbux-Reminder Service", which you can read more about here:
»www.chplaptops.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5
chplaptops is supposed to be ezlaptop. They claim they will give the gifts. But I don't think it's true. I'll prove if it's true, though. | |
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stdstd
@comcast.net
| Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams »img190.echo.cx/img190/7467/netbu···a3dr.jpg
taken last payment when they still used paypal.
dumbasses. I found this stupid forum using netbux and I'm making MORE money while laughing at you retards complain.
now shove that up your pipe and smoke it. | |
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jonez
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Stow, MA | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams hmm....well there is proof in the pudding there.
is that real? | |
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stdstd
@comcast.net | Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams 100% | |
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| That was almost a month ago. I don't see any other success stories.
said by stdstd:
dumbasses. I found this stupid forum using netbux and I'm making MORE money while laughing at you retards complain. No, you found this stupid forum using Google.
And I'm making more money than you without having to search for crap. 
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i386
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Tucson, AZ | Netbux uses Google/Yahoo/MSN/the rest. So, it's not really Netbux finding it, as removed said. | |
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