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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA

reply to Karl Bode
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Some people are always looking for the quick buck. Then there's a certain amount of "mental investment" people make as they get further and further into the scam. They can either 1) admit that they've been scammed and lose all hope of regaining their losses, or 2) hold onto any shred of hope (no matter how tenuous) that the scam will pay off. There's a group of people who will choose #2 each time even if choosing #1 means less money lost.
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i386
Unix God
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join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
paypup is pay-pup2.com

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
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reply to beyondthedoor
oh... and, Netbux is back up. So it didn't really go down.
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA

Wow, French NetBux scam spam. How classy.

Translated using Babelfish for those who are interested:

The new script of automatic research for Netbux, Pay-pup, Search-Pay, ibux, Money-Jet and even Clickz2Cash is on line with the following address: "netbux-paypup.ift.fr "research-automatique.c.la + explanations for used scripts!! It passes even the new protection system of netbux! A site to be seen urgently

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i386
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reply to removed
said by removed:
I wonder how »www.midifox.com/ has close to 100 customers if they haven't even opened yet.

It's looking like midifox is being run off of a reseller account.
I questioned the guy who made that claim (mrcore). Let's see what he responds with. I wonder if he's going to just come up with some BS?
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removed
Crisis Management Squad
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join:2002-02-08
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clubs:
I'd say so..

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
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reply to beyondthedoor
Yup.

pstation
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Indianapolis, IN


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reply to beyondthedoor
I'm getting an empty directory now when loading netbux.org, so it looks like the owner deleted the files and is now moving along to the next scam of his. »kyrotek.com/ is the company that claimed to own netbux.org.

With more than fifteen years experience in the computer technical field the
people at Kyrotek are devoted to building value not only for our customers, but
also for the communities that our company and our employees call home. We will
work with you to fabricate that ideal PC to fit your everyday needs and desires
with complete warranties, while keeping the cost down to sometimes 50% of
mainstream competition.

Kyrotek also specializes in computer upgrading, on-site local repairs, on-site
network setup, on-site computer/software training & much more. Let Kyrotek be
your personal gateway into the world of technology.

Kyrotek – Your Technical Solution. Located in Lake City, Florida. On-site service
is welcome to all Central Florida, North Florida and South Georgia residents!
Computer fabrication, repairs and sales are available to anyone in the United
States.

But yet, "Kyrotek" is not even a real registered company.

i386
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reply to beyondthedoor
That will be an AWFUL one. I sure do hope he doesn't scam people out of $600+.
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i386
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reply to beyondthedoor
Who knows an incorporation search? I would like to look up "Kyrotek". They claim to be an incorporation. A search on Google for an inc. search shows nothing good.
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removed
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You'd have to look everywhere. They may be in Florida, but they don't have to be registered there to be incorporated. Delaware and Nevada are some of the more popular places since it's easier/cheaper in those areas.
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
ah.

danj3ris

join:2005-06-01
West Nyack, NY

reply to Karl Bode
C'mon Karl, a mental illness? To repeatedly get conned? That sounds more like someone with a great deal of trust in the human race (something you seem to lack) whose actions eventually reveal bad judgement. And then you speak as if "we" will eventually return to say you were right, like "we","they","them" are some kind of mindless hoard of hell-bent zombies who want nothing more than to make money with minimal effort. Im not a Zombie, I have no mental illness. I know this sounds like a crazy idea, but what is the point of having money if you dont use it? I just happen to take risks with my money. Some risks have payed off, some have not.

Again it seems that a majority of the people on this thread are so focused on labeling something a scam that the second there is the slightest sign of trouble, you all jump at it like its gold. The fact is, people who put some effort into these risks do not "Jump" headfirst into what they know can turn out bad.

In my first post I said I could give a rat's posterior about what you all think. Well why should I when everyone has a biased view on the matter? NETbux is a scam before and after people get money for doing exactly what the website said one should do to get money.

And because I know that someone providing proof of payment does little to sway your opinion on whether Netbux is a scam or not, I suggest you find your own proof. I'd give you my referral link to get you started but of course my post would be deleted.

Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
quote:
C'mon Karl, a mental illness?
Yes. Look at you here, trying to justify being swindled by another MLM to a bunch of strangers.


removed
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reply to danj3ris
said by danj3ris See Profile:

Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p
It's your understanding? Please. You make it sound like you had to ask people or do research. The third reply to this thread was me telling everyone about my netbux experience.

I thought it was at least worth looking at, but then that ass clown bought my account and decided to harass me.
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
Netbux has an 'under construction' page. Kyrotek Media doesn't have the PC page anymore -- it's now a link to netbux again.

pstation
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Indianapolis, IN

reply to beyondthedoor
Someone that bought unreferred users via stormpay received this message when attempting to file a claim:

quote:
Closed by StormPay
10 Jun 2005 10:56 Hello Netbux Investors:

On behalf of StormPay, Inc., I wish to bring you up to date on our efforts to communicate with Mr. Chad French in regard to his recent transaction with you. We have directed multiple e-mail and telephone communications to Mr. French in order to ascertain the specific facts and circumstances as to why his website is no longer available and why he has failed and refused to communicate with us and you regarding the pending claim you have asserted against him. Obviously, without any recent or direct communication with Mr. French it is impossible to determine what his future intent is in regard to following through with the commitments he has made to you.

Your request to be reimbursed has been forwarded to our Risk Management team for review. If fraudulent activity is found Mr. French will be sanctioned and suspended from transacting any further business through StormPay. Unfortunately, at this time there are no funds available within Mr. French’s StormPay account to pay out to you on your claim. He has long since withdrawn the funds that were being held in his StormPay account.

If any funds are recovered from Mr. French, your StormPay account will be reimbursed. Rest assured that we are doing everything within our powers to recover these funds including contacting the authorities if necessary.
We regret these circumstances but urge you not to allow this situation to deter you in your future on-line transacting. We strive to make StormPay the safest and securest on-line payment processing system available. If we are successful in recovering funds we will make direct contact with you.

As with programs of this type, as the buyer you must carefully consider the statements and representations of the merchant before investing. You must determine what is a promise or guarantee as opposed to what is an anticipated result given a certain set of variable facts and circumstances. You must determine how reasonable and likely those anticipated results are before you determine to spend your money.

With all that being said, we truly regret these circumstances and will keep you advised on developments as they occur. Of course, we still hold out hope that Mr. French will soon get his site back up and running and make good on the promises and representations he has made. For these reasons we will have to close your claim at this time.
The funny thing is that some people still don't think it's a scam in spite of this.

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ

1 edit
reply to beyondthedoor
Netbux now redirects to another site, searchoodles.com.


busta cap

@cable.rogers


1 edit
Netbux scamed you dont get scamed again

Chad P French and Tiffany L French

Chad P French owns all rights over the netbux scripts, that are used by netbux, search-pay, pay-pup, pay-pup2, ibux,
and moneyjet

addresses
removed

phone numbers
removed

domains owned by Chad P French Officially
usellco.com
acflb.org
kyrotek.com
netbux.org
xull.org
kinx.org
searchoodles.com

domains that dont admit there owned by Chad P French (NO WHOIS INFO MEANS THEY WILL SCAM YOU TOO) SAME SCRIPT = SAME GUY

search-pay.com
moneyjet.net
pay-pup.com
pay-pup2.com
ibux.net
Lapiter.com

and finally email addresses to contact him at
chad@acflb.org
request@usellco.com
support@usellco.com
contact@kyrotek.com
admin@netbux.org

There are more find them yourself

and Dont get scamed again by him

Chad saying no more netbux
»www.gptresources.com/showthread.php?t=7525

Mod edit: The addresses and phone numbers were removed since there isn't any public sources listed. Republishing information already public is OK, but not without verified sources.


removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs:

Here's the address:
5122 Sw 47th Loop
Lake Butler, FL 32054

And his PO Box:
Route 3 Box 1550
Lake Butler, FL 32054

Here's the phone numbers:
386-496-9693
386-867-0711

Note to the mods: All of this info was acquired using public sources. Please do not delete.
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