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pstation
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Indianapolis, IN

reply to beyondthedoor
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

quote:
I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several reasons.

First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by filing a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot generate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true because before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your account from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many disputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the account was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).

My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it forwards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even listening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with other internet projects.

The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under another dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real requests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. And I had just made a deal with the host about adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwed by them as well.

Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of service that people may find to be helpful.

If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 95% of the funds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky enough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.

If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. With all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that derived from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.

Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like it is without Netbux in the first place.

If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mail contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.

owner of netbux posted that...

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ

reply to beyondthedoor
Translation:

I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several re
*asons.

First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by f
*iling a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot gen
*erate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they
*have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true becau
*se before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal
* any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your acco
*unt from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the
*account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many d
*isputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the accou
*nt was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).

My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it for
*wards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even list
*ening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with othe
*r internet projects.

The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under ano
*ther dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real req
*uests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. Because I am a scammer and don't want
* to be caught, I cannot continue this service. And I had just made a deal with the host ab
*out adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwe
*d by them as well.

Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-
*make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I
* will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of se
*rvice that people may find to be helpful.

If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 2% of the f
*unds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) because we are
* scammers or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky e
*nough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.

If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. W
*ith all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that deri
*ved from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.

Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like
*it is without Netbux in the first place.

If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mai
*l contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.

(*) WARNING 9 long line(s) split


etoast66

join:2001-06-05
Caldwell, NJ
reply to removed
Why do all of these scams have a Chad, a Tiffany and are based in Florida? See »Antispamcard.com Information Collection

ltrouse

join:2004-06-16
Jacksonville, FL
  I’m not sure about the Chad and Tiffany thing, but I think the reason they are based in Florida is due to our property laws. If a person gets sued there are a lot of assets that can’t be touched. That’s why OJ moved here.

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
Anyone know where to get free background checks?

Chad French
Lake Butler, FL 32054

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
Anyway, chadf has been banned from the mynetbux site, which they linked to.

Good for him, he's a scammer. Also his 'church' is 'temporarily unavailable', acflb.org.


Mordy
Comfortably Numb
Premium,MVM,ExMod 2004-07
join:2001-12-02
Denver, CO
 reply to beyondthedoor
(topic move) Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

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The post that was here, and all followups to it, were moved to a new topic .. »www.igotscammed.com

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Pay-Pup now has "new ownership". I think it is Jordan Anders (from Midifox Hosting), just changing his name.

Jordan is a *HUGE* scammer. I would advise caution to anyone thinking about using his hosting company (Midifox).

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ

reply to beyondthedoor
I am assuming this "church" ("Anchor Christian Fellowship of Lake Butler" aka "ACFLB") is fake, just here to play with our minds. Anyone know more about this "church" that Chad P. French has?

I have a little more information about him that I can give. He is a 20-year-old residing in Lake Butler, FL. On "MyNetbux," they are planning a lawsuit and already have a lawyer.

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to removed
I think I've found some more e-mails to contact Chad French at. It looks like he may have 2 Gmail accounts.

chadfrench@gmail.com
chad.french@gmail.com

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ

reply to beyondthedoor
From the looks of it here, it looks like Chad P. French (the owner of Netbux) also owns Midifox Hosting.

Jordan Anders = Owner of Midifox Hosting = Owner of Pay-Pup = Chad P. French

Be sure to avoid these guys, there's enough evidence here!


securitysam

@range81-153.btcentra

reply to Theres Back
looks like pay-pup has fucked off with my cash.
did not even have 1 payout with them and i bought like 10 referals.
why dont I listen when people say scam?
because of all the other morons shouting this is great I been paid once, now im gonna buy a shit loada refs and then they bugger off.
If you got deceived, submit full details of the Web Site details information with your e-payment confirmation and file a complaint email to the followings to alert the relevant authorities of the Internet Fraud:
1. Internet Fraud Coordinator: ifcc.tp@fbi.gov.
2. International Web Police: Director@Web-Police.org.
3. ISP Provider; abuse@........ (refer to Step One, search the abuse email contact of ISP Provider /and IP Address belongs to…and complaint of web site Network abuse).
4. Locate authority (refer to web Registrant station address, search on Internet to locate of country authority; such as “address/state police” or “(country) government authority”.
5. E-gold Service & CC to Web Site Owner.

The Authority information sites for 1, 2 & 3 are:
»www.web-police.org/
»www.ifccfbi.gov/
»www.scamwatch.com/
»www.fraud.org/

hope that helps guys, make sure everyone reports these jerk offs:D


removed
Crisis Management Squad
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs:

said by securitysam:

why dont I listen when people say scam?
Greed. Everyone wants to make some easy money. Unfortunately, sometimes the deal is so good that one ignores the little voice(s) that say(s) "don't do this, you idiot. It's a scam."

This is - unfortunately - why so many get burned by 419 scams. (and, well, other scams)
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
If you want money, look into getting a job that pays some money every hour. It's better than sitting at your computer all day doing searches or clicking links.


securitysam

@range81-153.btcentra
Heh, bloodyhell.... I never thought of getting a job.

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ


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reply to beyondthedoor
I think some pictures of Chad French are here (not that it matters):
url removed
That is his personal site.

mod note: I took a look; even though someone else had previously said this was a Chad French site, there is no evidence linking him to this site.


removed
Crisis Management Squad
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reply to i386
said by i386 See Profile:

Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?
How so?

pstation
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Indianapolis, IN

1 edit
reply to beyondthedoor
»free.hostultra.com/~windozeuser/romn125.html - interesting convo with the owner of paypup...

i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ
reply to beyondthedoor
One day, he has 180 "audits" to do. Next day, he has 300 "audits" to do.

Scam. Just like Netbux. Notice how it's down now (pay-pup2.com)?
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