jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
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1 edit | What is careerbuilder.com doing?
I got an email which, in my opinion, sounded sketchy as hell. So I wrote an email back to them asking what was up, and they responded "It's not spam" Am I just paranoid or is this email weird?
From: "Corneida Garcia"
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Subject: CareerBuilder.com: Additional salary to your
principal job.
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:14:05 +0000
CareerBuilder.com
Message from Job Poster
Additional salary to your principal job.
The company hires additional employees for home work.
We offer our clients services and accept any types of
payment convenient for them. Therefore we need
employees in different countries to accept payments
from our clients, to assist them to pay for our
services in the countries where they live and to
allow them to choose the way of payment they like.
Your salary will equal 10% of accepted payments. You
will be able to earn approximately from $300 to $2000
per week. Your income will depend only on speed and
quality of your operation.
If you are interested in this job, please e-mail your
resume to the following address: kc_resum@yahoo.com
and wait for the details of job description.
Thank you for your interest to our offer.
If you have questions or comments for
CareerBuilder.com, please use our feedback form.
So, I went to their site and emailed them, pasting the email as I have done here. Here's the response I got:
On 5/9/2005 you posed a question to CareerBuilder.com which was noted as inquiry 150809. The question you posed and our response are listed below.
Your Question, Comment or Feedback:
Why is careerbuilder.com sending these out? I apologize if this didn't come from you, but if this isn't a scam, I don't know what is!
Response:
This is not Spam. To respond with further information, please click the link at the bottom of the email.
Dear Patrick,
Thank you for contacting Careerbuilder.com. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. Our Site Integrity Team specializes in handling issues of this nature, and they welcome the opportunity to assist you in resolving any problems you may be experiencing at this time. Please contact them directly via email at the following email address: CSI@careerbuilder.com. Be sure to provide sufficient information about any problems you are having, and please indicate how you wish to be contacted if you need someone to follow-up with you. Thank you for your time.
What do you all think about this? Clearly, it is spam, the email address is even @yahoo.com. I'm waiting for a reply back from them, so I thought I'd ask in here. Obviously, it is not really a huge problem but why would careerbuilder send email asking me to collect payments from other countries, use a yahoo email address, and when asked about it reply, "It's not spam"? |
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SpannerITWks
Premium
join:2005-04-22
| Err Let's put it this way, i'd tell em where to stick it, and sideways too !
Don't even think of replying to them EVER again. No bona fide company Ever just sends out random deals like that.
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salzan
Experienced Optimist
Premium
join:2004-01-08
WA State | reply to jakoe420
Assuming you got to ther site by typing it in and not a link in the email, something does seem phishy. Why would they use a yahoo address? The response you got does seem generic as well. I'm sure it might look clearer if you post the email headers. |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
 ·Comcast
| reply to jakoe420
Sounds like a Pyramid scheme. I would toss it. What happens is webbots will go out and scour sites like Monster, and Careerbuilder.com and reap the info available to send out mailings.
I tend to ignore this junk that I get due to it sets off my "Spam" alert way too much. Just toss into your Trashcan and forget about it.
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
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| See, I tend to ignore this stuff too...I guess I've never gotten one of these from a "legit" company, so I was shocked when they said "It's not spam"
I typed www.careerbuilder.com into firefox when I wanted to ask them about it. I still haven't heard back from their Site Integrity Team...You want to see the headers? (I x'd out my email address)
Received: from site.careerbuilder.com (rebelsm3.careerbuilder.com[66.45.112.141](misconfigured sender))
by rwcrmxc12.comcast.net (rwcrmxc12) with ESMTP
id ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:14:05 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [66.45.112.141]
Received: from mail pickup service by Site.CareerBuilder.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Mon, 9 May 2005 13:14:04 -0400
From: "Corneida Garcia"
To: "xxxxxxxxx"
Reply-To: kc_resum@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 13:14:04 -0400
Subject: CareerBuilder.com: Additional salary to your principal job.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_=aspNetEmail=_e41e932c4fe74d6eae4b644e94eec69e"
X-Mailer: aspNetEmail ver 3.2.0.18
X-CBEID: E8G7N16HBNMBH4R9JG8
X-CBOrig: REBELSM3
Return-Path: kc_resum@yahoo.com
Message-ID:
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2005 17:14:04.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[809277E0:01C554BA]
Did Careerbuilder not write that reply? What does misconfigured sender mean? Actually, they HAD to write it because I was at their site when I submitted the question. Right? |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | This SPAM was sent through CareerBuilder.com's mail servers, is why it is saying 'misconfigured sender'.
I tend to ignore this crap as I stated.
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
clubs:
1 edit | Right, it's clearly spam. But what about this:
Received: from web02.fuzeqna.com ([66.150.167.196])
by sccrmxc15.comcast.net (sccrmxc15) with ESMTP
id ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:18:59 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [66.150.167.196]
Received: from mail pickup service by web02.fuzeqna.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Mon, 9 May 2005 11:13:22 -0700
From:
To:
Subject: Response to inquiry #150809 from CareerBuilder.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:13:22 -0700
Message-ID:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Thread-Index: AcVUwsjvFj3BwSihTR6QBEGGZ2kEYA==
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2005 18:13:22.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[C915E0D0:01C554C2]
This is not Spam. To respond with further information, please click the link at the bottom of the email.
from »www.fuzeqna.com/fuzeds/consumer/···bid=130:
Below we have provided a few examples of how some customers have opted to integrate the Fuze Suite into their Web sites. Each one is somewhat different, which will begin to give you an appreciation for the flexibility you have when integrating our solution. Next to each link we have identified some of the areas Fuze is being used. For example, all of the functionality under HAPO Community Credit Union's "Info Center" menu item is provided by Fuze along with the first set of calculators listed. Don't be surprised when the line between Fuze and the rest of the Web site begins to blur!
CareerBuilder.com www.careerbuilder.com (Help for Job Seekers)
Search results for: 66.45.112.141
Inflow NFLO-AR-2 (NET-66-45-0-0-1)
66.45.0.0 - 66.45.127.255
CareerBuilder, Inc. INFLOW--6526-9138 (NET-66-45-112-128-1)
66.45.112.128 - 66.45.112.191
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-05-08 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
Search results for: 66.150.167.196]
Internap Network Services PNAP-06-2001 (NET-66-150-0-0-1)
66.150.0.0 - 66.151.255.255
Fuze Technologies PNAP-SEF-FUZE-DC-01 (NET-66-150-167-192-1)
66.150.167.192 - 66.150.167.223
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-05-08 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | I would consider that as SPAM. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | reply to jakoe420
That fits Sharp's Corollary (from Rule #1 of the Rules
Of Spam) to a tee:
"Spammers attempt to redefine 'spamming' as that which
they do not do." |
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
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1 edit | reply to Greg_Z
I would too, but they wrote me back and said it's NOT SPAM
I guess I thought careerbuilder was OK, actually my last job, I found through their site. Until now, they weren't spammers in my eyes..... |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| Careerbuilder.com and Monster.com is a Spammer's dream. I use America's Job Bank (NO Spam), along with IL Dept. of Employement's website. Another is NationJobs.com. Looking through CareerBuilder, I cannot count on my own fingers and toes the amount of crap that I come across for Pyramid schemes and pure junk.
Since the newspapers are starting to be better at watching the content that goes into the job listings in the daily's, SPAMmers have to go elsewhere, and since these people pay the bills for companies like Monster and Careerbuilder, it will not stop.
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
Premium
join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH
| reply to jakoe420
Just a question for clarification:
We're talking about spammers USING those web sites to collect e-mail addresses, or otherwise sending spam through the service somehow, right? Not the services themselves actually spamming?
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
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| reply to jakoe420
All I know is that careerbuilder responded by saying "This is not spam" when clearly, it is. Somehow the Fuze Suite fits in somehow, I guess careerbuilder uses it on their site? I don't understand how they could come right out and deny the spamminess of that email |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | reply to Marilla
Correct Marilla. Spammers use places like Careerbuilder.com to collect email address's so that they can spread their word.
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One man's customer loyalty is another man's misguided arrogance. |
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
clubs:
| So, if a spammer at kc_resum@yahoo.com collected my email address from careerbuilder.com, then spammed me with that BS, how did I get email from careerbuilder/fuze saying that it is not spam? The headers for the response email look OK to me. AM I missing something here? |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| If you sent back to Fuze through Careerbuilder.com email addy that they are using, that would be my response. My sentiment is to be careful on what you open or respond to. If you do not know the sender, do not open up. Always scan any attachments or compressed files.
And last but not least, there is always a reaction for every action.
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One man's customer loyalty is another man's misguided arrogance. |
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
Premium
join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH
| reply to jakoe420
said by jakoe420  :So, if a spammer at kc_resum@yahoo.com collected my email address from careerbuilder.com, then spammed me with that BS, how did I get email from careerbuilder/fuze saying that it is not spam? The headers for the response email look OK to me. AM I missing something here? I guess that's what's got me confused here, too
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Dantz
| reply to jakoe420
This is a variation on a common scam. In essence, they send you a bad check and you send them back a good one. |
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SnowyOne
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Kailua, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Clearwire Wireless
| said by Dantz:
This is a variation on a common scam. In essence, they send you a bad check and you send them back a good one.
It seems to be a variation on a 401 scam.
They would need your bank info to 'deposit' these funds to. |
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jakoe420
join:2003-09-05
Knoxville, TN
clubs: | IS careerbuilder LYING to me when they tell me it's not SPAM? That's all I want to know now, if they are I'll never go there again. Or is somebody else pretending to be careerbuilder and tell me that? |
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