dleehend
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Re: Yet the sites are gone
said by don a lee:
If it's this hard for you to get a torrent of a web page it must have taken you hours to set up your "automated" system. nope,
just copy rss feed url in Azureus feed scanner, right click on torrent name and choose create filter. A total of about 10 minutes to set up filters for 15 or so tv shows. Then I never have to mess with it again. Until the feeds died. 
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No, it is go to the site find show you want among all the shows that are available, probably clicking on two or three links before I get to the file I want. Then I have to click on the file link so that it will be downloaded.
If it's this hard for you to get a torrent of a web page it must have taken you hours to set up your "automated" system. |
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G_Poobah
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You are correct.
But, a TV show on an over-air broadcast that you record. The million dollar question is thus "Did you 'purchase' that show when you recorded it?". Remember, they are going after TV distribution sites here, not movie sites.
The goverment 'grants the broadcasters the permission' to broadcast their vast wasteland over the public airwaves, but the other side of that implied contract is that (1) it can't be encrypted, and (2) the end users have a RIGHT to recieve it, and the thing that pisses the MPAA off, (3) the end users have a RIGHT to record/backup the show for personal use. I would argue that the act of legally recording the show on a legally owned recording device does in fact construe a 'purchase contract', and you can LEGALLY remove the crap from a show you don't like. (in fact, that's exactly what the Family Movie Act is trying to get across).
Problem is, the Family Movie act threw all of those rights into limbo, and not really by choice, by allowing 'editing of content for personal viewing'. Technically, the law was written to benefit ONE COMPANY that made the device, but the wording of the law allows other people to provide the service to a 'responsible party of a household'. So, you capture the show, legally. Then you choose to have a device remove the offensive content, or have someone do it for you. That's specifically allowed in the law.
Granted, you can't get a DVD from an over-air broadcast, you would need to purchase it, but NON-CABLE shows (NBC/etc) are broadcast over air, and in the process of recording the show, I legally 'own' the show, and can legally 'modify' the show to meet my moral standards (or have someone else do it). That's not what the MPAA wanted in the law, but hey, sucks to be the MPAA. Remember, they wanted the 'no-copy' bit for the sole purpose of preventing step 1 of this process (i.e. recording the show). If they had their way, you would pay them every time you even thought of a jingle or ad. Remember 1984, it's closer than we think.
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jjoshua
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Troll? Hardly. Take a deep breath and relax.
Clearly, you're allowed to edit content that you have purchased. Now you're legally allowed to buy the content and have someone perform the editing for you.
The point is that you still have to buy the content before you can edit it.
What you can't do is buy a single copy of a film, edit it, and then resell it many times as though it were your content. |
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G_Poobah
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Umm as far as your Tivo comment goes.
Well, they DO have a DVR that classifies commercials as 'objectionable'. It's called the Replay 4000. I own 3 of them, and they BLOW TIVO AWAY. No commercials, ever.. It rocks.
Too bad the MPAA trolls sued the crap out of Replay TV to make them illegal now.
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G_Poobah
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Double WRONG AGAIN Mr. MPAA troll.
It's NOT ILLEGAL to sell the modified content! That was SPECIFICALLY addressed in the LAW if you read it, but trolls don't read the law, they just spew what their MPAA masters tell them to.
»www.cleanfilms.com/
»www.familyflix.com/
But the 'family movie' provision, championed by US Representative Lamar Smith (Republican, Texas), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee's Internet and Intellectual Property Subcommittee, indemnifies any company that makes prudish versions of movies available without authorization.
The ARE 100% legal until a court decides otherwise.
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Blackened
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Erm, it's:
»www.thepiratebay.org |
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dleehend
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and within a few hours I had them with NO ACTION on my part, almost as easy as turning on the tv set
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markopoleo
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Bonne Terre, MO | reply to dleehend
Well your just to lazy, torrents normally show up within a hour after show is aired. |
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dleehend
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said by markopoleo  :Why do you think its harder just because they don't have RSS feed? lol All you do is go to site, click on show you want. ta ta! Its easier than ever. Just the way it should be No, it is go to the site find show you want among all the shows that are available, probably clicking on two or three links before I get to the file I want. Then I have to click on the file link so that it will be downloaded. Then I must wait for the file to download.
You compare that to having a computer download it while I am asleep or at work, with NO INTERACTION on my part after setting up the filter. When I get up in the morning my shows are waiting for me to watch them. With an rss feed, it is as easy as email.
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markopoleo
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Bonne Terre, MO | reply to dleehend
Why do you think its harder just because they don't have RSS feed? lol
All you do is go to site, click on show you want. ta ta! Its easier than ever. Just the way it should be |
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jjoshua
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WRONG!
It is now legal to sell devices that can skip over objectionable material but it is still illegal to redistribute the content in modified or unmodified form.
I would like to see a TiVO hack that automatically classifies commercials as objectionable material and skips over them when you play back a show. |
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dleehend
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thepiratesbay.org
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Of course this is just a listing of download sites.
None of them have rss feeds that I can find. That is why I say it is now harder to get the shows you want. Azureus plugins would check the feeds then download the shows with no interaction on my part once I set up the filters.
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G_Poobah
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Actually, new and better ones are springing up to replace them already. btefnet and the others will be back.
5 Great Replacement sites to piss off the MPAA Trolls!
»www.torrentspy.com/
»www.myspleen.net/
»www.torrentreactor.net/
»www.isohunt.com/
»www.thepiratesbay.org/
Now, my FAVORITE part of all of this, is that reselling TV shows with the commercials removed is now 100% LEGAL !
Don't believe me? Read:
The Family Entertainment and Copyright Act of 2005
This bill provided an affirmative right for those who used technology to skip objectionable material, such as profanity, violence, or other adult material, in the audio / video works that they legally purchased or recorded. This is a right that most believe manufacturers of technology and consumers already have. Additionally, technology manufacturers must provide a notice at the beginning each showing of the “altered” content stating that “the motion picture is altered from the performance intended by the director or copyright holder of the motion picture.”
commercials for viagra and feminine products offend me, so I want TV shows without those ads I find offensive. Guess what, downloading a version of a show I LEGALLY RECORDED on my VHS/DVD/VCR/Tivo/etc is now 100% legal if the commercials have been removed.
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