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DragonFire

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Re: [Help Me] DGL-4300 dying under heavy use?

said by Snickerdo See Profile:

Damn dude lay off the crack. 'Cable' has nothing to do with this, rather, it is the ISP itself. My cable ISP offers cable connections with 640kbit/s and 1Mbit/s uplink speeds. The DSL providers offer 640, but nowhere near 1Mbit/s. Latency on a utilized connection is going to be the same, regardless of the transport type. In addition, no consumer-level DSL is going to be full duplex, so you're stuck with the same traffic handling as cable. In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about. Now... to attempt to PROPERLY address the issue...
UMMM....You have no idea either. Some DSL providers do in fact offer 786-1000Kbps for the upload side. Its also a fact that DSL is lower ping times all around because DSL is not shared as cable is.

Of course it all depends on where you live but I know a few people that have seen 56k speeds in the evening because everyone in the nighborhood is online downloading torrents and what not.

My DSL line has gone down twice in the last year and was back up both times with in 30 mins, can you say that about cable? Oh yeah, I have been enjoying 6016/608 speeds for a year and half now, how many cable providers were offering 5Mbps or more a year and half ago?

To show that cable really sucks, cable networks could offer 100Mbps or more to its users today but they rather milk there users to death first at the slowest speeds possible.

Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

Re: [Help Me] DGL-4300 dying under heavy use?

said by DragonFire See Profile:

UMMM....You have no idea either. Some DSL providers do in fact offer 786-1000Kbps for the upload side. Its also a fact that DSL is lower ping times all around because DSL is not shared as cable is.
DSL is shared once you get to the CO. Oh wow, you have a dedicated pipe from your home to the DSLAM. Big deal, a lot of good that'll do when the pipe from the CO to the ISP POP is congested to hell. Bye bye ping times, too.
said by DragonFire See Profile:

Of course it all depends on where you live but I know a few people that have seen 56k speeds in the evening because everyone in the nighborhood is online downloading torrents and what not.
I've had the same thing happen with DSL when the pipe from my CO that served half of the entire city was congested. I dealt with 1200ms pings for about three months before I got fed up and went back to dialup before I moved. Technology has nothing to do with it, implementation does.
said by DragonFire See Profile:

My DSL line has gone down twice in the last year and was back up both times with in 30 mins, can you say that about cable? Oh yeah, I have been enjoying 6016/608 speeds for a year and half now, how many cable providers were offering 5Mbps or more a year and half ago?
My cable never goes down, and I had 5500/640 well over a year and a half ago. Again, you're talking about ISP specifics, and not about the technology itself.
said by DragonFire See Profile:

To show that cable really sucks, cable networks could offer 100Mbps or more to its users today but they rather milk there users to death first at the slowest speeds possible.
The telco can too. Again, this goes to implementation. Your point?

My point, however, is that DSL and cable are both the same thing - consumer level broadband services that, all things being equal, perform pretty much the same. Blindly telling someone to switch from cable to DSL is a stupid thing to do. End of Story.
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Basher13

join:2004-05-02
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: [Help Me] DGL-4300 dying under heavy use?

Bottom line: DSL is much more private and secure
(due to frequent changes in IP address) however,
cable broadband smashes DSL for overall performance,
in terms of brute speed, ( up and down ) coupled with
running servers, gaming, xbox, etc.

Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON

Re: [Help Me] DGL-4300 dying under heavy use?

said by Basher13 See Profile:

Bottom line: DSL is much more private and secure
(due to frequent changes in IP address) however,
cable broadband smashes DSL for overall performance,
in terms of brute speed, ( up and down ) coupled with
running servers, gaming, xbox, etc.
Again, that comes down to implementation. I could have DSL with a static IP address, or cable that has IP addresses that renew every 7 days. It's all up to the ISP.
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