rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
| reply to hoffa3
Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots?
said by hoffa3  :actually my crossover cable was the one I took from modem that connected to router. I'm not sure why that cable didn't work. I've never used a crossover cable to connect my cable modem to my router. Perhaps yours is actually a standard ethernet cable (which would explain all the difficulties you had getting things to work).
said by hoffa3 :By the way my linksys hub only seems to work with it when plugged into port 1. I leave the hub unpowered Hmm.. I didn't know hubs worked unpowered. |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV | reply to rizzo2dial
actually my crossover cable was the one I took from modem that connected to router. I'm not sure why that cable didn't work.
By the way my linksys hub only seems to work with it when plugged into port 1. I leave the hub unpowered |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
| reply to hoffa3
You're welcome. To confirm that the instructions I gave you (using a crossover cable) were correct, I just turned on my laptop and followed my own directions. They worked.  Sounds like there's something wrong w/ your crossover cable. Perhaps buy a new one and try it out.
Rizzo |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV
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gee, wow it worked. I took an old hub and tried it with crossover to hub uplink and then ethernet from that to adapter. That didn't work so I used a regular ethernet to uplink and it works now. Packet 8 is green now. Cool, I'm going to test it out on my neighbors hotspot and see how it works. Thanks. |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
| reply to hoffa3
Most routers have auto-sensing ethernet ports, so whether you use a normal cable or a crossover cable, the router will accept it.
Do you have a second crossover cable you could try, or can you give the switch/hub simulation listed above a try? |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV
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yes, my cable is crossover. It says straight TPE on it and is wired differently from my normal cables. I have it connected from notebook lan to plugged in packet 8 adapter.
To be more specific, on wireless notebook LAN I select properties, advanced and under internet connection sharing I select "Allow other network users...internet connection". I don't do this for notebook LAN adapter.
If I take crossover from packet 8 adapter and plug into router LAN pops alive. |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
4 edits | reply to hoffa3
Are you sure you're using a CROSSOVER cable?
EDIT: In case you were expecting the LAN Adapter to show an active connection w/o having anything plugged into it, you actually need to plug your DTA into the LAN port (using a crossover cable) for the connection to become active.
EDIT2: If you don't have a CROSSOVER cable, and if you have a spare hub or switch laying around, you can simulate what a CROSSOVER cable would do by:
a) Connecting the laptop's LAN port to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
b) Connecting the P8 DTA to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
(Neither connection above should go into the switch/hub's "uplink" port)
c) Don't plug any other ethernet cables into any other ports of the switch/hub! |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV
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It isn't working for me. Both adapters on notebook are set to automatic. When I setup sharing on wireless adapter, it plugs in static ip for lan of 10.0.0.1 (router). I'm using WIndows XP Home. Wireless lan always works but LAN always shows as unplugged. |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
3 edits | reply to hoffa3
Don't set any static IP addresses to the notebook LAN. It needs to use DHCP. The wireless adapter, based on your settings, will be DHCP assigned an IP Address of 10.0.0.x by your router. ICS on your notebook will in turn assign your notebook's LAN adapter an IP address of 192.168.0.x. ICS is doing NAT from the wireless adapter's 10.0.0.x IP Address to the notebook ethernet 192.168.0.x address(es).
I've never had any success in bridging wireless and ethernet network adapters, but I've been 100% successful in using ICS to connect my P8 DTA to my laptop's ethernet connection w/ the laptop's wireless connection ICS enabled.
Rizzo
EDIT: It is no problem whatsoever that your wireless adapter is configured for DHCP assignment. Each network connection on your laptop is using a different DHCP server:
Wireless Network Connection -> Uses ROUTER'S DHCP Server (10.0.0.x)
Ethernet (LAN) Connection -> Uses laptop's own ICS DHCP server (192.168.0.x) |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV
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hmm, I'm having problems getting that working. Cable modem is on 192.168.1.1, router was on 192.168.0.1 but that was giving me problems so I put it on 10.0.0.1. Then notebook wireless adpt I enable ICS and for notebook LAN I put in something like
10.0.0.5, 255.255.255.0, gateway 10.0.0.2 and for dns I also put in 10.0.0.2. (10.0.0.2 is IP for wireless adapter)
Lan still isn't working. I can't do bridge connection either. My wireless adapter is set to automatically get ip so maybe that is the problem. |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
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said by hoffa3 :I just got a notebook pc and am trying it with packet 8 using the adapter plugged in to LAN on notebook. Anyone have any tips for this? 1) Use a crossover cable to connect your P8 DTA directly to your notebook's ethernet port.
2) Turn on Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on your Wireless Network Interface.
Note: ICS enables a DHCP server on your notebook, where the DHCP server uses the internal IP address of 192.168.0.1. It DHCP assigns IP addresses using the scheme 192.168.0.x (where x > 1). If your wireless connection is hooked up to a router using the same 192.168.0.x addressing scheme, you'll need to change your router to another addressing scheme (i.e. 192.168.1.x).
3) After step 2 has been successfully completed, your DTA should receive a DHCP assigned IP address from your notebook and be able to share your notebook's wireless network connection (i.e. you should have a dialtone at this point).
Rizzo |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV
| reply to joako
I just got a notebook pc and am trying it with packet 8 using the adapter plugged in to LAN on notebook. I'm guessing that I have to share my wireless conection with my LAN connection to get it to work but my LAN shows as disconnected and wireless is working fine. Anyone have any tips for this?
The reason I'm using the adapter is some providers don't allow usage over softphone. |
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stufried
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join:2003-10-13 | reply to joako
Inside my own country absolutely. Internationally, is a different story. My wife had an 8 hour layover in Tokyo and it came in real handy, particulary since her mobile was not UMTs compatible. |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
| reply to hoffa3
P8/FWD peering was fixed about a month or so ago. I was already familiar w/ using FWD to call P8 numbers; however, I was hoping for a true P8 softphone solution. Oh well. 
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV | reply to hoffa3
Sorry, I never had Packet 8 working with X-lite. It was FWD I had working with Packet 8 where I could call back and forth. I don't believe that works anymore with them. |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV | reply to rizzo2dial
I've only used X-lite with packet 8 from landline. I haven't tried it with hotspot. |
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joako
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join:2000-09-07
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It was possible a while back to use Packet8 to make/recieve calls with Asterisk and probably softphones.
Then they added a few more security measures, it might still be possible, but all the easy hacks will no longer allow you to use the service with any off-the-shelf SIP device.
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
1 edit | reply to hoffa3
said by hoffa3 :I'm wondering if X-lite will work with Sunrocket. I've done it with Packet 8 but not Sunrocket yet. I suppose that Packet 8 is probably better for VOIP hotspot because of its lower bandwidth requirments When you accessed P8 from a hotspot, did you do so via X-Lite (i.e. a SoftPhone) or did you actually have your P8 DTA w/ you? If you accessed it from a SoftPhone, please provide more details on how you accomplished that. Thanks.
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joako
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join:2000-09-07
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Before the "VoIP Craze" I used a Softphone at a busy Starbucks using the microphone and speakers of my IBM ThinkPad... it worked, and that's about it.
I see no reason to use a HotSpot for VoIP access -- I have a cell phone if I want to talk on the phone away from my home.
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stufried
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join:2003-10-13 | reply to keason
x-tunnels and a vpn slide around most of the port blocking techniques.
I used my notebook and did VOIP at various airport hotspots and it worked pretty good. |
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