bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to vpoko
Re: Nice Speeds
'100mbps will be used up rather quickly when you want to stream multipe HD channels into your home, use VoIP telephony, and when your kitchen appliances are all IP-aware.'
Then provision another twisted pair. Voila. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| What happens when those pair demands are so big that they have to run another copper cable down the road to keep up with demand ? Ahh yeah run another copper cable.
Nahh run fiber now upgrade the equipment at both ends and be done with it for awhile.
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Nik1108
VIP
join:2002-01-16
Nampa, ID | Because running copper is cheaper as it doesn't have to be 6ft deep in the ground like fiber. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to BosstonesOwn
At 100Mb/s there's gonna have to be a huge demand. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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said by Nik1108  :Because running copper is cheaper as it doesn't have to be 6ft deep in the ground like fiber. Nope , Next
Copper and fiber don't need to be trenched fios is lashing their fiber to copper that is in place at the moment and/or running it the same as copper.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
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said by bogey780 :At 100Mb/s there's gonna have to be a huge demand. how so ? what if demand for 200 mbit becomes the norm ? 8 pairs to the home now ? at what point does the cabling become to cumbersome and stiff ? How many strands can you fit in one of the pole taps ? You gonna fit 800 strands for 100 people ? or What happens if they need gig e speeds ? 4000 strands for the single 100 person block ? At what point does it get to the saturation point.
Fiber has none of those issues.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| ...and what if they need terrabit speed? With current usage VDSL2 could handle anything people need.
You are arguing as if VDSL is the end technology. It's not. Not SBC, BellSouth or any Telco is arguing it is. They're arguing that it's the best way to get people the speeds they want and need quickly and without bancrupting the company. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Honestly look at the telco's and tell me that is what they are trying to do !
They are trying to hang on to an out dated system. They need to get on the bandwagon like VZ and use their collective power to lower costs on equipment. Why rebuild 4 times to get what could be done today ?
Roll out like VZ is and after 12 months the service in the area breaks even. If half sign up then 24 months. BFD the system will be in place for at least 10 years maybe more seeing as there is no known transport as fast as fiber at the moment and much of the work being done is to make fiber faster.
We have hit a technology saturation point and until some one discovers a major break threw in quantum physics there won't be much more to do. Bear in mind that copper has lasted over 100 years. If Fiber makes it 30 years they will see the same profits as copper did over that 100 years.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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| 'Roll out like VZ is and after 12 months the service in the area breaks even.'
That's not even close to being accurate. VZ started something that'll take almost a decade to be completed and several more years before profit is seen.
Ask yourself what is accomplished by hanging onto copper if as you believe fiber is faster and cheaper? |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Your talking a nation wide scale I am talking area wide. As each area become profitable the money made there is used in another area. They are not stupid that is why verizon is rolling out the fiber.
Copper is dieing technology for telecom. As we become more wired to our world we need bigger and faster pipes. Nothing is accomplished by saving copper except pinching more pennies.
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