Brianv5
Low Level Functionary
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join:2001-01-20
Keyser, WV |  Such a waste of time
I guess that whole terrisom thing is over now. Nobody is unemployed. Food is abundant everywhere. Nothing else to do but make laws!
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LegoPower77
Abecedarian
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Arlington, VA | Where have you been for the past, oh, say 120 years? |
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Ga Dawg
join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA
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said by Brianv5  :I guess that whole terrisom thing is over now. Nobody is unemployed. Food is abundant everywhere. Nothing else to do but make laws! It is the legislatures job to make laws. It is NOT their job to make sure people have jobs or food. |
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AirGig
join:1999-11-21
New York, NY | reply to Brianv5
Here's one place to register your opposition:
»energycommerce.house.gov/feedbac···feedback |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
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join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| Have you voice heard!
Thanks for the link. I encourage everyone who is opposed to this to visit this link and put a quick note of opposition in there for this bill. It only takes 2 minutes, and with enough comments, who knows?
Speak out against HR2726.
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AirGig
join:1999-11-21
New York, NY
| Agree!!! I sent this:
I'm writing about proposed legislation H.R. 2726, ironically entitled the "Preserving Innovation in Telecom Act of 2005".
This bill will actually provide an exclusive monopolistic arena for telephone and cable companies while locking out cities from the opportunity to bootstrap themselves with a viable Internet service. This is especially true for rural and smaller communities that the telco/cable companies find econonmically unattractive. The is no good reason to legislate that a community can't help itself out! |
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rmko
@gm.com
| Dear Congressman Pete Sessions,
I have an idea for other legislation acts which are right along your way of thinking:
1. Preserving Innovation In Transportation Act of 2005.
Nobody living within 2 mile radius of a bus stop, train station or other public transportation outlet should own or use a personal transportation device such as a car, truck or motorcycle.
2. Preserving Innovation in Nutrition Act of 2005.
Nobody living within 2 mile radius of a restaurant should be allowed to cook or otherwise prepare their own meals.
If HR2726 becomes law I can come up with many more bills similar to the above, you'll have your hands full changing the face of our communities and the nation. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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Re: Such a waste of time
said by Ga Dawg :said by Brianv5 :I guess that whole terrisom thing is over now. Nobody is unemployed. Food is abundant everywhere. Nothing else to do but make laws! It is the legislatures job to make laws. It is NOT their job to make sure people have jobs or food. It is the legislature's job to make laws that are in the best interests of the electorate. Not sure how making it more difficult to provide technology to the electorate benefits the electorate.
And, sorry, but the electorate is composed of the people that vote the legislators into office, not the lobbyists that line legislators' pockets.
-tom
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA | reply to rmko
Re: Have you voice heard!
Communcations of this tenor tend to be looked at as the rantings of a crank rather than a concerned, voting citizen.
-tom |
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click_310
Eat my shorts
join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
| said by nixen :Communcations of this tenor tend to be looked at as the rantings of a crank rather than a concerned, voting citizen. Thanks for pointing that out. This proves that once in office these people turn into humorless bastards.  |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA | Nah, I don't think they wait that long to become humorless.
-tom |
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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
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Re: Such a waste of time
said by Ga Dawg :It is the legislatures job to make laws. It is NOT their job to make sure people have jobs or food. In a perfect world you may be correct. In this world, the legislature's jobs are to get reelected. It makes sense that they use their influence to help those who help them. |
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justncredible
@rr.com
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I really think this is what the people want, imagine government not wasting more money. Not raising taxes for foolish pipedreams. If we all voted on this issue it would fail. No one in a sane state of mind wants bigger government. Seems every time some crap like this gets posted a few morons come ranting about "how dare the government not spend more tax dollars" or " please I need the government to choose my ISP for me, I am to stupid to make a choice". Sessions is doing the will of the people, the majority of people do not want muni ran services. |
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mastmaker
@covad.net
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Re: Have you voice heard!
You got it wrong with legislation no.1 (though you got it right with no. 2). Here is the correction:
1. Preserving Innovation in Transportation Act of 2005.
Public transportation cannot have a bus stop, train station or other public transportation outlet within 2 mile radius of any home having a private transportation (car/SUV/truck/bicycle). Those areas which don't have a private transportation (including large parts of Nevada and Utah deserts) are considered 'market failure' and allowed to have public transportation. |
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Ga Dawg
join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA
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Re: Such a waste of time
said by nixen :said by Ga Dawg :said by Brianv5 :I guess that whole terrisom thing is over now. Nobody is unemployed. Food is abundant everywhere. Nothing else to do but make laws! It is the legislatures job to make laws. It is NOT their job to make sure people have jobs or food. It is the legislature's job to make laws that are in the best interests of the electorate. Not sure how making it more difficult to provide technology to the electorate benefits the electorate. And, sorry, but the electorate is composed of the people that vote the legislators into office, not the lobbyists that line legislators' pockets. -tom When did I say that making it more difficult to provide technology to the electorate was a benefit to the electorate? And on that note, when did I say that the electorate was composed of lobbyists?
Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. I was commenting on some fool lamenting the fact that the legislature is making laws while there are people without jobs and food. I simply stated that it is not the legislarures job to provide those things. |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
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said by justncredible:
I really think this is what the people want, imagine government not wasting more money. Not raising taxes for foolish pipedreams. If we all voted on this issue it would fail. No one in a sane state of mind wants bigger government. Seems every time some crap like this gets posted a few morons come ranting about "how dare the government not spend more tax dollars" or " please I need the government to choose my ISP for me, I am to stupid to make a choice". Sessions is doing the will of the people, the majority of people do not want muni ran services.
Pure hyperbole. |
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bbandbrat
Big Broadband Everywhere - Firstmile.Us
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USA
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said by justncredible:
Sessions is doing the will of the people, the majority of people do not want muni ran services.
Please cite your resources for "the majority of people". I'd like to see national, non-push, polls or other objective measures to back your assertion. We've done polls in our community and due to the bad performance of the incumbents, we've found the vast majority support muni-efforts to increase telecommunications efforts. We are now working on a statistically valid survey to check out our polls which were taken randomly at street fairs, civic meetings, etc. Note, at the street fairs it was random, whoever walked by - so there was no cherry picking of respondants. I've provided the references for my information - provide yours.
waiting ..... |
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justncredible
@rr.com
| bbrat, you provided NOTHING, no links nothing but some gibberish about street fairs, like out of the blue the people going to street fairs represent a full slice of the peoples will. You must be insane. I have been to a street fair maybe 2 times, made me feel dirty like shopping at wal mart does. With that you are looking at a small population, the real issue is trust in the government to provide a service without it becoming a tax pit as every single social program has become. I fear you are to simple to understand the point, this link DOES apply to this issue.
»www.cato.org/dailys/01-31-02.html
At the most 34% trust the government when it comes to social programs. Muni ran ISP is a social program, your data is skewed by the wording and placement of the questions. I can say that without having read it, since I know how you nuts operate. Kinda like going to a gay parade and asking if being gay is normal. There is no metrics in place to verify the success of any of the in place social programs, there is no data showing any good programs. Yet everyday I see in my local paper another tax payer social scam busted for stealing taxpayers money. Sessions is doing the right thing, less government is the right thing. No more taxmoneypits are needed, just plain common sense. |
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NCriss
join:2004-04-11
Seattle, WA | reply to justncredible
Don't you think the individual communities should get to decide if it's a waste of THEIR money or not?! |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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Ok, I am going to stab this one..
Let me start with, I HATE LOBYISTS!!
But, a reality check... aren't lobyists tax payors too? Yes they represent businesses as well, but aren't the people that have interest in business ALSO tax payors AND electorate too?
You guys do realize that lobyists ARE part of the process don't you? Not all lobyists pay off politicians. A Lobyist is a mouth piece for a "group of people" and that group can also be an citizen group. The lobyist is just the mouth piece sent to congress to get the voice heard.
Limiting the scope on who can and can't say what to whom is actually NOT the way out founding fathers intended our government to run. If you want the common good for all people represented at all time, then may I suggest communism?
EVERYONE CAN HAVE THIER VOICE HEARD and be represented... FORM A GROUP and organize... sit back as one voice and fall into the croud of too many to be heard.
I DO have a question, do you guys really think this will pass? I am not going to give this one a second wink. I think it's nothing more than a law maker trying to get some advertising and air time for a popularity or image boost.
For the record, didn't cable tv get it start by a small group forming their own delivery system? Yup!
So, why would government try to ban the same thing in round two? Also, ban community WiFi? Give me a break.. this piece of legislation is nothing more than "if you aren't a big guy, don't try to start your own ISP because we say no. It will never make it past a judge as legal anyway.
Ask youreslf, where are these Community WiFi people supposed to get their connection to the internet from anyway? AND if they do, and offer a service, aren't they then a business, ie: competition?
This legislation is plain, flat, simple, STUPID and a waste of time. Again, a publicity booster for the idgit sponsoring it. |
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