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(figured the word "castrating" in a topic might be impolite  but that's what i mean): dell is replacing a problematic computer finally, and has offered to install norton internet security with anti-spy 2005. now, we use symantec corporate on this lan, and i've not been a fan of norton's av, but am willing to give it shot since there's a free trial, BUT i do NOT want the firewall, the anti-spam, or the anti-spyware components as we have other solutions for these that i FAR prefer. but dell refuses (they actually say it would be illegal for them) to just install the AV portion. and will not send me the cds so i can uninstall and then just install the av.
is there a way to 'castrate' the NIS installation so that the portions i don't want are uninstalled but the AV still works? or is it too integrated? i will probably just tell them to leave the whole thing off, but thought i'd check here first. even if i end up not using it at all, i know others who feel as i do that the AV might be acceptable, but the other components aren't our favorites. thanx!
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| my first instinct is to suggest that you forget it.
just pass on it.
you even said yourself you are not a NAV fan.
so why let 'free' skew your thinking?
coming from a NAV fan, i still say, given the complexities of what you are proposing, don't even bother
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1 edit | said by boblandy  :so why let 'free' skew your thinking? are you kidding? you don't know me very well .
said by boblandy :coming from a NAV fan, i still say, given the complexities of what you are proposing, don't even bother really? it's that hard to tell it not to use the other components? i have little experience with suites except as a beta tester for a large, shall-remain-nameless-due-to-nda firewall company, and there, you can pick and choose among the components. if i'm forced to use norton's firewall, etc. i will pass, but i would have liked to give nav 2005 a run.
thanx, boblandy, as always, for your take on this!
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Normally the NIS firewall and NAV setups are different. You can actually browse the CD (if it's a CD) and pick out the NAV installer. Normally Symantec's suites have a common interface, and their components (firewall and anti-virus in this case) "plug-in".
Post-setup is a bit different. Even though I could isolate, and install NAV separately, getting it to work properly has been a different story. It may just be my bad luck with the consumer products of Symantec. Their corp AVs are by far more reliable (hmmm...).
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angelique
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Alhambra, CA | reply to gracie
I'm not sure about the trial version but the full version of NIS 2005 allows you to choose what gets installed, NIS NAV or both. |
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gracie
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said by redxii :Post-setup is a bit different. Even though I could isolate, and install NAV separately, getting it to work properly has been a different story. thanx, rexii1234! that's just as i suspected, but having no experience with NIS i couldn't tell. why the idiot dell borg won't just send me the cd i don't know, but there it is. since they are "replacing" a machine, no software media---even though NIS wasn't included in the original (that had NAV 2003, which lasted about 30 seconds here ).
my SAV license is for 8 with unlimited updates but not upgrades, and was trying to save a bit of $ by not having to upgrade it. after the aggro i've had with dell over this machine, i just hated to not get whatever i could from them . but headaches (i should say 'more headaches') i don't need.
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said by angelique :I'm not sure about the trial version but the full version of NIS 2005 allows you to choose what gets installed, NIS NAV or both. I believe NIS 2005 requires its NAV to be installed. |
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said by redxii :Normally the NIS firewall and NAV setups are different. You can actually browse the CD (if it's a CD) and pick out the NAV installer. Normally Symantec's suites have a common interface, and their components (firewall and anti-virus in this case) "plug-in". If you mean installing from nav.msi, then it won't work in the newer versions.
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said by angelique :I'm not sure about the trial version but the full version of NIS 2005 allows you to choose what gets installed, NIS NAV or both. yes, angelique, i do know that. the point was that NIS will be installed already, and then i want to "castrate" it...remove everything except NAV. if they would send me the cds, i know i can do it, but without them...
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1 edit | reply to angelique
said by angelique :I'm not sure about the trial version but the full version of NIS 2005 allows you to choose what gets installed, NIS NAV or both gracie wrote... "but dell refuses (they actually say it would be illegal for them) to just install the AV portion. and will not send me the cds so i can uninstall and then just install the av."
iow, it's coming pre-installed
edit in: ah, redundancy...
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said by antdude :I believe NIS 2005 requires its NAV to be installed it does, but when installing fresh from the cd, i believe you can install either the whole suite, or just the NAV. but my issue is that with the whole suite pre-installed, i want to nuke everything except the NAV, and it's looking like i can't.
back to the search for a new AV . or just keep using SAV 8 and accept it's annoying tendency to not be able to scan about 50 files, not all in use (decompression problems, etc.) other that that problem, i've been fine with SAV, and we have 5 licenses and unexpiring updates (just not upgrades). and dealing with symantec tech support is...well...there are no words .
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Alexandria, VA | reply to gracie
You said that you have Symantec Corp on the LAN at work? Can you use that? Some licenses allow companies to give copies to employees to use at home, so they aren't bringing viruses in to work. I would check.
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gracie
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| said by TheJoker :You said that you have Symantec Corp on the LAN at work? Can you use that? i guess i wasn't clear. i AM using that---it's version 8; we have 5 licenses. "work" is me and my partners. it's our pocket . i've been told i shouldn't still be using 8, so this looked like a good solution to try before laying out the money for an upgrade.
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richter35
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Let's hope someone from Symantec does not find out what are you planning to do with their "baby". |
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| said by richter35 :Let's hope someone from Symantec does not find out what are you planning to do with their "baby". hah! no worse than i've seen some installs of nav (especially that old 2004) do to friends' computers . but heck, maybe if someone from symantec sees this, they'll take pity on me and let me upgrade my SAV...i'd jump at it!
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| said by gracie :hah! no worse than i've seen some installs of nav (especially that old 2004) do to friends' computers . but heck, maybe if someone from symantec sees this, they'll take pity on me and let me upgrade my SAV...i'd jump at it! You sure have a history with Norton.  There is a user from Symantec's team who follow this board, so maybe you can sweet talk him into "enabling" you to upgrade to v10. 
I am not sure, but as far as I recall there is option during uninstall to remove everything or just one part, but I am not sure if it's remove antivirus/remove all or was it remove NIS (without NAV)/Remove all. I haven't used NIS in a long time so I don't know.
Does Dell leave setup files lying around? For example, IBM leaves all application setup in one folder, and drivers in other. So if I uninstall something that came with computer I can always install again. I've never used Dell, but if that is the case, maybe you don't need that CD after all. |
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angelique
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Alhambra, CA | reply to antdude
I have Nis installed and you do have the option to select what to install. I installed NIS without NAV. |
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angelique
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Alhambra, CA | Just checked add/remove software in windows control panel and it gives you the option to uninstall all or just portions of NIS. |
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Just remember. At least one of the top 3 Google hits for "uninstall" always points to a Symantec site.
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