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neutronic

join:2005-06-05
Port Washington, NY

FiOS TV Features Update

I was lucky enought to participate in a Verizon FiOS TV marketing focus group earlier this week in Carle Place, Long Island. Here's what I found out:

1. Verizon will be launching FiOS TV to certain towns in Western Nassau including Great Neck, Manhasset, Port Washington and Roslyn (there may be others) on Sept. 1st.

2. The service will offer 300 channels with 18 sports channels, 3X the number of HD channels that Cablevision currently offers, 1,800 on-demand programs and all of the standard local channels (except stuff like News12 and NY1).

3. They will offer a DVR box that can record up to SIX programs simultaneously and stream video from one room to another if you have multiple DVR boxes.

4. Supposedly, it will be cheaper than cable, but there was NO other info about possible pricing.

That's what I know right now. Hope this helps!

Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

Awesome!

I'm switching all my services (Voice, Data, Video) to FIOS as soon as it becomes available.

Fios to me is the BEST deal on the block from what I am seeing. I really like how they are going to have 3X the HD Cablevision has! CV has 17 HD channels I believe so that would be 51 HD channels! WOW! Damn, I'd be happy if they even gave me 30 HD! And for less money per month, how can you go wrong?

-Tzale
UofMiamiGrad
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join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY

said by neutronic See Profile:

I was lucky enought to participate in a Verizon FiOS TV marketing focus group earlier this week in Carle Place, Long Island. Here's what I found out:

1. Verizon will be launching FiOS TV to certain towns in Western Nassau including Great Neck, Manhasset, Port Washington and Roslyn (there may be others) on Sept. 1st.

2. The service will offer 300 channels with 18 sports channels, 3X the number of HD channels that Cablevision currently offers, 1,800 on-demand programs and all of the standard local channels (except stuff like News12 and NY1).

3. They will offer a DVR box that can record up to SIX programs simultaneously and stream video from one room to another if you have multiple DVR boxes.

4. Supposedly, it will be cheaper than cable, but there was NO other info about possible pricing.

That's what I know right now. Hope this helps!
I assume it all depends on getting franchise agreements signed in time, otherwise the plans to launch Sept 1st around here will be delayed. Hope to hear some franchise agreements sometime in the next two months. Sounds promising though, thank you for the information!:D
Jobronie

join:2004-07-23
Harrington Park, NJ

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by UofMiamiGrad See Profile:

I assume it all depends on getting franchise agreements signed in time, otherwise the plans to launch Sept 1st around here will be delayed. Hope to hear some franchise agreements sometime in the next two months. Sounds promising though, thank you for the information!:D
Are franchise agreements needed even for test markets? Maybe that's why they're test markets: to see how the video runs and to guage consumer/boro reaction.

Reason I ask is because about 10 days ago I ran into the north Jersey Fios Hummer guy at our library. Asked him about video: he asked if I lived in town, I told him yeah, he siad about two months. Two months??? He listed a number of towns for the Closter and Wykoff COs that are gonna be used as test markets. I asked about the franchise agreements and progress in Trenton; he said something like: I don't know where that is, all they keep telling me is test market video in two months.

OP: any idea how you got selected for the focus group? Was it thru Fios directly, or did a a research firm pick your name-out-of-a-hat....?

LLivingLarge
Better Than You
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join:2003-12-03
Roslyn, NY
Jesus Christ... The Roslyn CO isn't even live yet and they are already promising FIOS TV to us?
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kevin73
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join:2002-06-14
Huntington Beach, CA

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

LLivingLarge

JC?

May I also blurt out estraneous feelings?

No one is checking our posts.

KC


Jeffrey
too dark too early
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Dix Hills,NY
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May be I'm coming in late in the game here, but how will the set top boxes connect to my Fios hardware already installed in my garage? RG6? Cat5? I'm just wondering if I'll have to lay some more Cat5 cables or switches, or if we can use the existing cable that is hooked up to the TVs now.
JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

Look in the ONT just below the phone jacks, there's an F connector for RG6.

Jeffrey
too dark too early
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Dix Hills,NY
clubs:

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

Ahh Ok, that makes some more sense.
Thanks.
TurtleFan

join:2003-05-03
Wyckoff, NJ

300 Channels? Gameshow Network BETTER be listed as one of them, and I'll switch ASAP

I really hope it's at the $50 price tag or under. T hat's already 15$'s cheaper than cable.

NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX

Now only if they would license Tivo to run on top of the MSDVR crap and I'd be happy. Though for the ability to record 6 channels at once I'd jump for it..

Hopefully the dvr has the ability to access NFS or a SAN so people can ramp up recording space beyond it's hard drive limits. Otherwise having the ability to record 6 channels at once for a large family will be moot.
GernBlanston

join:2005-01-08
51464

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

Why on earth wouldn't you be able to daisy chain the TiVO right in line, with no loss in functionality?

GeekNJ
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Waldwick, NJ

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by GernBlanston See Profile:

Why on earth wouldn't you be able to daisy chain the TiVO right in line, with no loss in functionality?
Are you talking about a standard stand alone Tivo? They don't work well with set top boxes as the set-top box only outputs 1 channel so how would you, for example, watch something and record something else?
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HaloBox

join:2002-01-10
·Verizon FIOS

said by NOCMan See Profile:

Now only if they would license Tivo to run on top of the MSDVR crap and I'd be happy. Though for the ability to record 6 channels at once I'd jump for it..

Hopefully the dvr has the ability to access NFS or a SAN so people can ramp up recording space beyond it's hard drive limits. Otherwise having the ability to record 6 channels at once for a large family will be moot.
LOL. I got a kick out of that one. I keep envisioning homes with a mini data center right in the middle of the house...

ablack6596

join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY

I really want to be able to stream video from DVRs. DirecTV is so annoying, turning it off on their Tivos. I'll probably wait and make sure that the MS DVRs aren't crappy, but that looks pretty good.
musicforme

join:2005-02-24
Grapevine, TX

The quality and features of the DVR will make it or break it for me.

We're still on a Comcast analog plan that works great with our Tivo. The plan is around $50 a month with tax.

If Verizon's least expensive plan isn't close to that and doesn't include a DVR, we'll probably stick with Comcast. We'd probably re-evaluate that decision once we have a HDTV, but that won't be for another year or so.
aaron12345

join:2002-12-17
Falls Church, VA

Both cox and dish (we had cox, then moved to dish) SD look like crap on Infocus DLP projector. The HD is bearable but should look alot better. I hope verizon doesn't compress the hell outta everything. They say they won't.... but that doesn't mean they really won't.

Hmm2

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Where are they getting that HD content from...VOOM?
neutronic

join:2005-06-05
Port Washington, NY

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

I think not... VOOM is (er was) a Cablevision company. NO WAY they would license content to Verizon when they're about to EAT THEIR LUNCH all over Long Island! Man, I can't wait!

NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX

Yeah what is the storage on these things, and their abilities. Can they record 6 HD shows at once if you wanted to do that or can it record 5 SD and 1 HD. The ability to record 6 channels will probably have it's limit.

Really after the CES demo it seems were not getting what MicroSoft was bragging about.

Why the DVR, just have one master DVR where everyone can just dial up any program that has played when they want to see it. Network schedules are so 60's.

sdgthy

@optonline.net

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

The CES thing was a SBC demo. SBC is finding that MS IPTV currently doesn't scale very well, requiring 1 server per 10 customers. MS IPTV has a long ways to go yet before it's ready for prime time.
Zodiacal

join:2003-11-26
Monrovia, CA

i tried adelphia's DVR for a few months. i liked the idea of being able to record two shows and watch another recorded one at the same time, BUT, the quality of the recordings was horable, it looked worse than regular digital cable on my stand alone Tivo. i guess they had to compress the hell out of it to get it to record two shows at once? i switched back to just a standard digital cable box and my tivo. plus the adelphia dvr woudn't let you permantly save shows. it was very anoying. it was a moxi operating system. i will think hard and long before i switch from my tivo, but yet i will have to some day because mine can't do HD.
peterl1365

join:2005-01-03
Murrieta, CA

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by Zodiacal See Profile:

i tried adelphia's DVR for a few months. i liked the idea of being able to record two shows and watch another recorded one at the same time, BUT, the quality of the recordings was horable, it looked worse than regular digital cable on my stand alone Tivo. i guess they had to compress the hell out of it to get it to record two shows at once? i switched back to just a standard digital cable box and my tivo. plus the adelphia dvr woudn't let you permantly save shows. it was very anoying. it was a moxi operating system. i will think hard and long before i switch from my tivo, but yet i will have to some day because mine can't do HD.
Interesting point. If the Fios TV signal is all-digital (which I believe is the case) then I'm hoping that the DVR will record the digital stream directly, like the DirecTV Tivos do. I'm guessing that the moxi DVR from Adelphia was a hybrid, since Adelphia probably had a lot of their "basic cable" channels still on their analog tier. Anytime a DVR needs to encode an analog signal, like standalone Tivos, then the picture quality will suffer.

How was the recording quality on your "digital" channels?

GeekNJ
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join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

Cablevision has a set-top-box DVR and the recording quality is excellent. They even have a HD version. With it built into the set-top box, like the DirecTivo, I think the quality is much better then trying to integrate a stand-alone unit.

If/when Tivo comes out with a cablecard unit, they might be able to achieve the same quality as the integrated units.
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Zodiacal

join:2003-11-26
Monrovia, CA

i did notice that some channels looked really horable compaird to others. but my tivo (even tho it has to reencode the data) looks much better than any channel my moxi dvr displayed.
im not sure which channels where "digital". i only heard recently that some digital cable companies aren't 100% digital. acctualy i think i heard that on a direct tv commertial?

zoom314
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For Me It would have to cost less than $43.38 per month, As that is what Dish Network charges Me for the Americas Top 120 package per month.:D
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Woof Woof
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join:2004-09-01
Keller, TX


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The installers here in Keller are using 3 different Motorola boxes. A basic box, a standard def DVR and a hidef DVR. He apparently didn't have one on the truck, or know the model numbers off the top of his head.

I can't remember how he described the HD one, something like "Then there is the kick ass one that will do everything including scratch your ass."

HaloBox

join:2002-01-10
·Verizon FIOS

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by Woof Woof See Profile:

The installers here in Keller are using 3 different Motorola boxes. A basic box, a standard def DVR and a hidef DVR. He apparently didn't have one on the truck, or know the model numbers off the top of his head.

I can't remember how he described the HD one, something like "Then there is the kick ass one that will do everything including scratch your ass."
Have we mentioned you Keller, Texas weenies suck recently? Southlake, Texas has to wait until September... again
TurtleFan

join:2003-05-03
Wyckoff, NJ

Has anyone heard a confirmed date for the test services to start in NJ? Or how we can sign up for it?

I've heard anywhere from July to September.

I found a number to call but I havn't tried it yet to find out more... Either

Verizon Communications
Corporate Headquarters
1095 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036

Telephone: 800-621-9900

or

Verizon New Media Services
One Verizon Place
West Airfield Drive
P.O. Box 619810
D/FW Airport, TX 75261-9810

Telephone: 972-453-7000

Wasn't sure wich was the proper number for a NJ inquiry..

NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX
Hey with enough PC's running I can leave the heat off in the winter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jschramm03

join:2004-08-18
Baldwin, NY

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

I am actually looking forward to the MSDVR. UltimateTV (MS DVR for Directv) was great. Mine died and they dont sell it anymore so I had to switch to Tivo. But it really was a great product, it had a bunch of features that I liked better then Tivo. It was FAR better then any cable company DVR I have seen.

HaloBox

join:2002-01-10
·Verizon FIOS

»www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···iew.mspx should give you an idea what's coming. See the datasheet link at the bottom for some screenshots. I don't know how much Verizon is customizing things, but if thats the platform they are rolling out, it should be pretty similar.
peterl1365

join:2005-01-03
Murrieta, CA

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by HaloBox See Profile:

»www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···iew.mspx should give you an idea what's coming. See the datasheet link at the bottom for some screenshots. I don't know how much Verizon is customizing things, but if thats the platform they are rolling out, it should be pretty similar.
Except it's been noted that Fios TV will not be IPTV.

HaloBox

join:2002-01-10
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I guess it isn't really conclusive in »newscenter.verizon.com/proactive···id=89058

Looks like Microsoft has two TV solutions. Oh well, as long as it works is all that matters to me.

sdgthy

@optonline.net

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

So far, all that has been said is that Verizon will use a custom version of Foundation: »www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···ain.mspx
TurtleFan

join:2003-05-03
Wyckoff, NJ

OK, here's what I just found out...

I talked to a nice lady on the phone who immediatly went to her supervisor for more info. Right now, the only place the TV Service is being tested in is Virginia, and she said that it was probably accurate information that NJ would begin seeing it pop up in August or September, as stated on this site.

But she also says that unfortunatly, they have a process for selecting test people and this isn't something the average citizen can sign up for. However, People with FIOS already, probably will be contacted first about it.

If anyone else manages to get lucky and finds a local supervisor with more info, feel free to post it ..

notonespecial

I just got FIOS and they offered me the TV service too for $45. I'm in great neck.

I refused ... for now.:D
UofMiamiGrad
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join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by notonespecial:

I just got FIOS and they offered me the TV service too for $45. I'm in great neck.

I refused ... for now.:D
That's news to me considering no franchise agreement has been signed here in Great Neck. So they offered you TV service and gave you a channel list of all the programming to be offered?
SuperG03
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Re: FiOS TV Features Update

If I remember correctly, at least here in TX, VZ offers DSL & satelite TV in a deal, so maybe he got something similar to that. I highly doubt it was FIOS TV though. If that person could call back up and get some more detail, that would be great.

SuperG03
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Great Neck, NY

Re: FiOS TV Features Update

said by SuperG03 See Profile:

If I remember correctly, at least here in TX, VZ offers DSL & satelite TV in a deal, so maybe he got something similar to that. I highly doubt it was FIOS TV though. If that person could call back up and get some more detail, that would be great.

SuperG03
You're probably right, it might have been DirecTV they were pushing, and not FIOS TV. I am waiting for a franchise agreement to be signed for up here, since the franchise tv footprint (various villages) have all been wired and turned on. Just need the franchise agreement and TV can be offered, assuming VZ has the VDH up and running.
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