Eatmeingreek
Gentard
join:2001-06-29
San Francisco, CA
| Bye-bye ATI
Today is a good day:
emerge -C ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra
emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx
No more random crashes (XFS + ATI binary drivers = heavy, heavy worries.)
No more sucky (1/3 of Windows!) performance.
Hello Doom3 and stable, performant World of Warcraft under WINE (not cedega.)
Never again.
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computx
Is it Friday yet?
Premium
join:2000-09-02
Kirksville, MO
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June 9th, @01:50AM
| After using ATI's linux drivers, using nvidia will be a walk in the park. It's really sad that ati doesn't have better linux support. |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | reply to Eatmeingreek
I feel happy for you. If only I could afford a 6800GT or Ultra to replace my Radeon 9800 Pro 128, which has been the source of nothing but trouble, making me give up on the drivers. |
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yazdzik
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-26
Honesdale, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·New York Connect
| reply to Eatmeingreek
Now, now, children -
ati has been the source of a deep moral awakening -
Most of us who use the drivers spend so many nights just trying to get 3d that we no longer engage in other activities unpleasing to the puritanical majority.
Indeed, the mere ability to collect e-mail in x with 9600 card surely prevents much immoral activity, provides solid birth-control without offending the pope, and has the economic side benefit of supporting cannabis growers worldwide.
Seriously, EMIG, congratulations - those of us whom you have so generously helped over the years are grateful to you, and happy for you.
Best,
M
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Epyon9283
Premium
join:2001-12-26
Dayton, NJ | reply to Eatmeingreek
Moving over to nvidia was a great day for me. Even 2d stuff is considerably faster than with ati. |
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NS4683
join:2000-08-25
South Amboy, NJ
| reply to Eatmeingreek
I wish ATI would wake up with their drivers. It was a pain to get them working, however they aren't as good as nVidia drivers. I have a GeForce 2 GTS (32 MB) in a box with an AMD Athlon 700 (Slot A) and 256MB RAM running SuSE 9.1 and it gets more FPS than my Radeon 9600 XT (128 MB) with an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ and 512 MB RAM running SuSE 9.3.
I haven't had this ATI card that long but I'm really disappointed with the lack of good drivers for Linux. |
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Epyon9283
Premium
join:2001-12-26
Dayton, NJ | reply to Eatmeingreek
There are new ati drivers out today. Maybe they'll fix something. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
| Doubtful. Even ATI's Windows drivers suck ass, along with their actual hardware. I've never had a single ATI card that's lasted longer than a year and a half, two years tops. After having about three or four of them die on me within 18 months, I dumped every single ATI card I had for nVidia. |
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ftzsee
Premium
join:2001-11-22
clubs:
| reply to Eatmeingreek
said by Eatmeingreek  :performant World of Warcraft under WINE (not cedega.) I'm curious about this part. Why? |
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Aggie Dan
Stop... Reverse That.
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Frisco, TX
clubs:
| reply to Epyon9283
said by Epyon9283 :There are new ati drivers out today. Maybe they'll fix something. That's what I'm hoping. That and I'm hoping that there is an ebuild already built so I don't have to do it myself.
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NS4683
join:2000-08-25
South Amboy, NJ
| reply to Epyon9283
Well, I got the new drivers from SuSE. The glxgears gives more FPS than I got previously. I get approximately 3300 FPS when running it. I think I should be seeing more. Does anyone else have a figure for the FPS of a similar ATI card? My card is the 9600xt. |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| said by NS4683 :Well, I got the new drivers from SuSE. The glxgears gives more FPS than I got previously. I get approximately 3300 FPS when running it. I think I should be seeing more. Does anyone else have a figure for the FPS of a similar ATI card? My card is the 9600xt. GLX gears doesn't look like something that good for much more than making sure you have 3d acceleration. Find a game to do your benchmarking. |
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SuperJudge
Magus
Premium
join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
clubs:
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I do have my Radeon 9600 Pro working on my MAME rig, but I'm looking to dismantle it and put it together with my wife's, and make another computer to give to her little brother. It has a geForce 2 GTS.
Are the drivers so bad that the GTS would outperform it?
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NS4683
join:2000-08-25
South Amboy, NJ | Well, running with medium settings at 1280x1024 I get about 30-50 FPS in the Doom 3 demo. I think I should be getting more, but it might be that my card doesn't have enough power for that. |
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Eatmeingreek
Gentard
join:2001-06-29
San Francisco, CA
| reply to ftzsee
said by ftzsee :I'm curious about this part. Why? You mean why WINE and not Cedega? Because Cedega costs money. I already paid for two licenses for the game. And I'm paying from two monthly subscriptions. Cedega would be too much.
Besides I track HEAD on WINE, and some recent changes took care of most of the sound glitches.
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Eatmeingreek
Gentard
join:2001-06-29
San Francisco, CA
| reply to SuperJudge
said by SuperJudge :Are the drivers so bad that the GTS would outperform it? No, I have a Geforce 4 MX,a nd it was slightly slower than the 9700 PRO I exorcised.
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SuperJudge
Magus
Premium
join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
clubs: | reply to Eatmeingreek
I honestly haven't had much trouble. The only problem is I don't have a comparable Windows system to check it with.
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Updated My Journal |
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JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
·SONIC.NET
| reply to Eatmeingreek
Uncle! I give! I am swapping my horrid 7000VE (not even supported by the ATI driver and cranking a whopping 250 FPS in glxgears (that's bad, btw), dri mode crashes with xorg 6.8.2, I hate this card) for a low end Nvidia Quatro4 200 that's gathering dust anyway.
Anyone want to bet it will be faster?
I've already sshed into my box from work and installed the nvidia drivers, just have to wait until this evening to swap boards and stomp the ATI card into dust.
Hates it, we do. |
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bmfan
Premium
join:2005-03-15
Saint Helen, MI | I just got a new motherboard memory nvida card the works. and i'm only getting 350 FPS in glx gears
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JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
·SONIC.NET
| reply to Eatmeingreek
Booya!
$ glxgears
3961 frames in 5.0 seconds = 792.200 FPS
4395 frames in 5.0 seconds = 879.000 FPS
5025 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1005.000 FPS
5035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1007.000 FPS
4927 frames in 5.0 seconds = 985.400 FPS
5060 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1012.000 FPS
5047 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1009.400 FPS
5293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1058.600 FPS
5358 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1071.600 FPS
5327 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1065.400 FPS
5378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1075.600 FPS
5558 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1111.600 FPS
5585 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1117.000 FPS
5543 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1108.600 FPS
5794 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1158.800 FPS
5913 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1182.600 FPS
5892 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1178.400 FPS
5638 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1127.600 FPS
5728 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1145.600 FPS
5312 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1062.400 FPS
4624 frames in 5.0 seconds = 924.800 FPS
4619 frames in 5.0 seconds = 923.800 FPS
4607 frames in 5.0 seconds = 921.400 FPS
Oh, and 2D is nice and snappy too. Shocking!
# nvidia-installer -i
Welcome to the NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux
The currently installed driver is: 'NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86' (ver
*sion:
1.0-7664).
# lspci -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro4 200/400 NVS] (rev a3
*) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0146
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 185
Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=fea00000]
Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
Expansion ROM at 00020000 [disabled]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
(*) WARNING 2 long line(s) split
Very nice - now, what to do with this nasty old ATI card? |
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