SulSeeker5
join:2003-03-20
Eugene, OR | reply to voyager6868
Re: already there
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | reply to Unregistered user
said by Unregistered user:
And what would the rest of the world do if the U.S. government started nuking its own cities? hehe... I'm not sure you'd like the answer to that question. |
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91439306
15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT
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Not likely to happen. In 1776, the resistance had the same weapons and firepower as the British. Today, we have these puny pea-shooters and the government has tanks, nukes, crowd control devices--riot control is down to a science. The People don't have a chance.
Change has to come from philosophical movement. That's just not happening. And it looks like things are going to get much worse. A new Dark Age is probably in our future.
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So, you're saying that if there were massive street protests on the Washington Mall (say 50,000 people), they'd drop a nuke? Do you realize the political implications of doing something so stupid? Sure, you can do it, but the country would quickly come apart at the seams. And what would the rest of the world do if the U.S. government started nuking its own cities?
I wasn't really speaking of armed revolt here, but organized political protest and/or civil disobediance, but as far as overthrowing the most powerful government in the world, it's been done before. It started in 1776. |
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91439306
15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT
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said by Unregistered User:
What gets me in all this is the defeatist attitude I see in response to all this. Go over and read Slashdot to see what I mean. There are people willing to stand up and die for what they believe in in countries far more repressive than ours, yet most people here won't even lift a finger to stop something they don't agree with. In just over a year, we've seen governments in Georgia, Ukraine, Kyrryzstan, and Bolivia toppled by people hitting the streets, yet all we do is sit and moan. What's wrong with us?
Part of the problem is that the biggest government tax dollars can buy is too powerful to overthrow. All our government would have to do to quell any resistance is use a few tactical nukes and that'd be the end of the resistance.
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No, they're not. They usually only keep enough records so they can do billing at the end of each month. I don't think you understand what this entails, so I'll tell you. Under this scheme, ISPs would be required to keep:
The URL of every Web page you visit
The address of every e-mail you send
Every other TCP/IP connection your computer makes
This is a _massive_ amount of data, and it'll take a massive amount of storage. It'll allow anyone with it to reconstruct almost every activity you conducted in a given period of time.
What gets me in all this is the defeatist attitude I see in response to all this. Go over and read Slashdot to see what I mean. There are people willing to stand up and die for what they believe in in countries far more repressive than ours, yet most people here won't even lift a finger to stop something they don't agree with. In just over a year, we've seen governments in Georgia, Ukraine, Kyrryzstan, and Bolivia toppled by people hitting the streets, yet all we do is sit and moan. What's wrong with us? |
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