whatthehey212
@comcast.net
| reply to Anonymous_
Re: Can't Copy Protected CDs still be cracked?
" "Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition "
Connect the audio out (3.5mm jack) to your line in(3.5mm jack) and recored it from there
they can not put copy Protection because there would be no way for the headphones to decode it"
And what you have is no longer a perfect digital copy. |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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Barberton, OH
| reply to Anonymous_
said by Anonymous_  :there is a better way to do this buy for 19.99$ "Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition " Connect the audio out (3.5mm jack) to your line in(3.5mm jack) and recored it from there they can not put copy Protection because there would be no way for the headphones to decode it Most copy protection doesnt change what you here. Even the meathods that use digital tones use ones that are out of the normal human hearing range. So it not so much that it has to be decoded its that it triggers your computer and software to refuse to record it. Saddly sonic foundry and many other comercial programs wont let you record it at all any more. Ad for dit in dit out that wont work its digital.
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| reply to peggypwr1
To everyone stupidly harping on the "perfect digital copy" thing... you do realize file formats like MP3 are lossy formats and the RIAA still doesn't want you to have those right?
Your "perfect digital copy" argument is stupid and irrelevant. They don't want you to have copies, period. They could care less what the quality is.
Now everyone move along, nothing to see here... |
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dave
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join:2000-05-04
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| said by Primis1 :To everyone stupidly harping on the "perfect digital copy" thing... you do realize file formats like MP3 are lossy formats and the RIAA still doesn't want you to have those right? Your "perfect digital copy" argument is stupid and irrelevant. They don't want you to have copies, period. They could care less what the quality is. Now everyone move along, nothing to see here... Of course. And I don't use MP3 either 
But your argument is incorrect. MP3 and other lossy formats are supposed to change the signal only in ways that "you might not notice".
By comparison, the imperfections introduced by analogue tape are mere freaks of nature, and don't take your feelings about the sound into account. (OK, maybe noise-elimination techniques such as dbx and Dolby take your feelings into account).
I would agree that, in principle, the RIAA and their ilk don't want you to have copies, period (even those copies you are legally entitled to have). However, I contend that the higher fidelity, the more worried they are about it, and that analogue copies are their least concern.
(Look at it this way: if you're selling pirate copies, you sell fewer copies if they're crappy copies. Thus simple risk analysis should tell 'em to go after the better copies first.) |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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Barberton, OH | heh dave at the rate riaas going their gona start sueing people for playing their music to loud and putting on a public performance. |
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some guy
@milwwi.ameritech
| reply to peggypwr1
cds play on regular cd players because an audio cd player has no idea how to deal with the executable file that installs the "protection"
simple ways to become protected from copy protection
1)disable autorun on all drives on windows boxes--there are many ways to do this, here is one »features.engadget.com/entry/3239···8279892/
2)use a nonstandard os--big labels will never bother to create a linux version of their protection
3)don't buy cds--they can't put nasties on your computer if you just download the cd preripped from somewhere else
if you bought a cd, you have the right to rip it. a DMCA challenge is unavoidable in the near future, but media companies will lose it, since encryption is not built into a cd player (like it is in a dvd player), but in the media--think of it as "optional software", you can't be compelled to install it |
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Nicram
@62.17.x.x | reply to peggypwr1
'some guy' just closed this topic - a stand-alone CD-copier, or CD-player linked with CD-recorder always do the job. |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | reply to peggypwr1
Why not just to make a copy to CDR |
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kw
Premium
join:2004-06-12 | Then you'd have two copies of a DRM'd disc. The best way to get around DRM is probably to disable Autoplay, and leave it at that. If the disc doesn't run when it's put into the computer, then it defeats anything they might try and put on there. |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | reply to peggypwr1
I know it's off topic,but Is there anyway to crack Real Player DRM files without burning it to CD and than covering it to wav? |
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kw
Premium
join:2004-06-12 | Probably. But you won't find it here...since you post is going to get deleted. |
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some guy
@milwwi.ameritech | reply to Oleg
totalrecorder or some other "live ripper"
the program poses as a soundcard, thus defeating any detriments to it being prevented from recording a stream
there are infinite ways around problems
be creative |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | reply to kw
Well I think I have the right to play music I have paid for without any limits and RIAA can go to hell  |
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Cozworth
Premium
join:2003-06-10
england
clubs:   | Them old Audio CD recorders are just lurking, ready to copy anything with some nasty protection on it. |
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some guy
@milwwi.ameritech
| they have protection built in, they need "music discs" (can't use the cheap data ones) and you can't make a second generation copy (unless you use a computer)
console cd burners are also slow (a computer can burn a whole disc in a minute, consoles are usually 4x max)
there are lots of ways to make copies, but some are much better than others--not leaving the digital domain is a huge time saver |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | reply to whatthehey212
then i could use WINRIP and copy from my Digital OUT (SPDIF)
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | reply to peggypwr1
Well I will just burn tracks on CD than rip it to wav this will be much better and will save lots of time,but thanks for the advice. |
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AT1
join:2003-03-05
Sedalia, MO
| reply to peggypwr1
Sure but....... The issue is sound quality. Anything that can be sent to speakers can be recorded in one form or another. It's the quality of the resulting song that is the issue. Ever record a "record"? It's full of pops and hisses. A digital track right from the CD is clean and no loss of sound quality. So what would you rather record from?? |
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john262
join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV
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| reply to peggypwr1
You wouldn't need to copy the tracks to a cassette tape. Just connect your preamplifier's line out jack (the one that you would normally have connected to your tape deck) to your sound card's line in jack. Then use freeware Audiograbber's line in sampling feature (or any number of other software titles) to rip the track. If you are careful to make sure that your sound card's record level is set properly so that it doesn't go into clipping you can get a good high quality file.
Yes, this method is a bit time consuming because you have to record the tracks the old fashioned way in real time, but that doesn't mean that if you are willing to take the time you won't get a high quality file out of the process.
This idea that only digital sounds good is not true. A well made analog track can sound very good. I prefer vinyl records to CD's any day all things being equal. Vinyl has the problem of surface noise but other than that it has a warmer and fuller sound than digital has IMO. |
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dave
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join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
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| said by john262 :This idea that only digital sounds good is not true. A well made analog track can sound very good. However, what we're really talking about here is starting with a digital recording encoded with stuido-quality equipment, decoding it into analogue, transferring it as analogue, recoding it into digital, and expecting that to be 'as good as' the original. |
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