moonpuppy
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| reply to Advoc8
Re: Well, well, well......
said by Advoc8:
my source is logic. here's some of my evidence used with logic to draw a similar conclusion to the danish peeps. Unless you have some HARD scientific studies, your anecdotal evidence is naive to say the least but lets take a look at it.
said by Advoc8:
a) sex is as natural as eating, sleeping, or breathing. Maybe but most kids do not reach sexual maturity until their teens.
said by Advoc8:
b) mother nature herself, the ultimate cannot-be-refuted expert, says they are ready at around 14 or so
Just because nature says it is o.k. doesn't mean kids are mentally ready for it. Same reason kids have to wait until they are 16 to drive and 18 to do certain jobs even though they may be capable of doing it sooner.
said by Advoc8:
c) we live in a vastly more complex world now, sex hasn't changed, therefore sex is vastly more simplistic (to the eyes of someone growing up in the complexity)
People used to have a lower life expectancy than they do now. And sex is never simple.
said by Advoc8:
d) because of c and other related factors, kids are more sophisticated sexually at a much younger age now then ever before in this country's history, or that of most other civilizations either. What they have is more "information" but they rarely use it. Teen pregnancy is still an issue even though we have condom commercials all over the place and sex ed in schools. Not to mention STDs and other issues.
said by Advoc8:
e) noone is ready for sex their first time
So far, the only logical thing you have said.
said by Advoc8:
f) it is better to have sex for the first time with someone who knows it from experience, who can nurture you through the process, instead of a back-alley fuck from your cousin/jr. high boyfriend/random encounter
No, it is better to have it with someone who cares for you and not just wanting to "get off." Rarely does this occur when the age difference is so large and someone is still going through puberty.
Sex with a cousin? Ever heard of incest? 
said by Advoc8:
of these items, only d is even remotely debatable. now is when i toss in logic. because of those factors, sex with, by, and for children (sorry declaration of independence) is probably not a harmful thing, whether it's done by them with each other, by them with someone else, by someone else with them, photographed, written about, studied, whatever. in all it's facets sex is a normal (enjoyable) part of life and should be nurtured. having said that. pfoviding "protection" for children is of course a necessary thing. providing "protection" whan it's not needed and you hurt other people in the process is morally repugnant.
And I guess you will volunteer to help all these kids enjoy sex.
said by Advoc8:
before you get started. yes, there are child abusers out there. the problem is that many people who do not abuse, who do no harm of any kind, are labled as abusers, offenders, or predators, stigmatized to such an extend both socially and legally that their entire lives are forfeit. until such time as the laws particular to this issue are removed from relation with sex and attached in relation to harm, they are invalid, morally as well as logically. Anyone having sex with a child more than 4 years younger than themselves is a molester. That's why we have statutory rape laws.
said by Advoc8:
i had sex with a 21 yr old when i was 10. i know this issue from both sides. i like people for who they are regardless of whether they're young or old, male or female, black or white. i do not limit myself because i can find no positive purpose in doing so. and neither should you.
First off, any 21 year old that feels the need to have sex with a 10 year old is sick. The maturity is not there.
And if you say you have been on both sides of this issue, then you are a molester, end of discussion. If you have issues that require you to have sex with a child, or even allow it, you need to be put away.
Your entire argument is not logic but a bad attempt at rationalization. You know it is wrong yet you use your "perverse" logic to try and make it acceptable.
You are a very sick individual. My advice to you is to go suck on a 12 gauge and make sure it is loaded when you pull the trigger. |
