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tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

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[XP] they see each other, but access denied

my setup
cable modem
dell 2300 truemobile router
ethernet to desktop
wireless to laptop
windows xp home both, s.p.2
norton antivirus 2003/2004, respectively

situation
i used windows xp to setup a home network...problem is, i can't access either computer from the other. when i goto "view workgroup computers" i am able to see both computers, no matter which i am physically sitting in front of. however, at that point, i can only access the computer i am at, it gives the following error message:
"XXXXXX is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. contact the" blah blah blah, you know the rest.

now, from the desktop, i also get this: "access denied" but from the laptop, i get logon failure, you have not been given permission to access this resource"

i have tried with xp firewall, and without xp firewall, i have checked and my norton doesn't use a firewall, it is antivirus only, not internet security. i have no other 3rd party programs that run firewalls.

thanks for the help!


jaa
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Do you have anything (disk, printer) shared?



funchords
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reply to tlarkins
Make sure the same username and password combination are valid in both computers. Both need to use the same sharing model. If one or both of the systems are XP Home, this OS can only use the Simple File Sharing model.

Access is denied is a definite message from the destination system ... something is not right with permissions. It means that your system asked under your credentials, the remote system said "no." In XP Pro, I think this means that the permissions on the Security tab are the permissions that are disallowing the access. You can turn on auditing to find out.

"You might not have permission to use this network resource" is less definite. It could be a local issue.

"logon failure, you have not been given permission to access this resource" ... I think this either means that your username and password do not exist on the destination system -- or, if you are using XP Pro, it means that your account or group does not appear on the Sharing tab.
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Dunke
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Medford, OR

Check you event log for the error "Srv". If it's listed then this is the problem:

Details
Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 2011
Source: Srv
Version: 5.2
Symbolic Name: EVENT_SRV_IRP_STACK_SIZE
Message: The server's configuration parameter "irpstacksize" is too small for the server to use a local device. Please increase the value of this parameter.

Explanation
The server is configured with too many file system filter drivers (for example, Quota and anti-virus) and/or too many devices, or the irpstacksize parameter is set to less than the default of 15 stack frames. The irpstacksize represents the number of kernel modules that can store information in the input/output (I/O) Request Packet (IRP). The IRP is used to track I/O requests in the kernel.

User Action
The irpstacksize parameter can be increased by changing the registry value.

To change the registry value

Using Regedit, open the following registry key:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters\IrpStackSize
In the Value data box, type 15.
The default size is 15 stack frames. Each stack frame is 50 bytes. If the value is less than 15, advanced users can safely set it back to 15. If 15 is too small, try increasing the number by increments of 5 until this event is no longer logged. Changing this registry key requires a restart of the Server service.


TherapyChick

join:2003-09-19
Fayetteville, NC

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reply to tlarkins
nevermind


tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

reply to jaa

Make sure the same username and password combination are valid in both computers. Both need to use the same sharing model.
hmm, its windows xp home edition, and each machine has its own user and password.

If one or both of the systems are XP Home, this OS can only use the Simple File Sharing model.
well, then how could i mess this up if i have no other choices?

"access denied" from desktop and "logon failure" from laptop. does this mean that the problem is found within the laptops configuration?

Check you event log for the error "Srv".
um, i don't know how to, but i did go into the registry editor and went to HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\services\lanmanserver\paramaters...but there wasn't an "IrpStackSize" listed...there was a "size" listed and its value was 000000x1 or something like that!

TherapyChick

join:2003-09-19
Fayetteville, NC

What the other poster meant with "same username and passwords" is this:

If PC1 has a username of "user1" and "passwordx"

then PC2 needs the same "user1" and "passwordx" name and password.



funchords
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reply to tlarkins

said by tlarkins:

Make sure the SAME username and password combination are valid in both computers. Both need to use the same sharing model.
hmm, its windows xp home edition, and each machine has its own user and password.
Again, create the same user(s) and password(s) on both computers to make this work.
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tlarkins

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Conway, AR

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well, both PC1 and PC2 have same username and password (now),

i renamed one username, and the passes were already the same, so i rebooted and tried it again...still same problem though...i went through the windows xp home network setup utility again and it still didnt work...

next suggestion?



funchords
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When you rename a username, it actually keeps the old account name, it's only the public name that changes.

Rename that one back to whatever it was before (so you don't get confused).

Then create a new, matching user from scratch. You can always copy the stuff between accounts from one "My Documents" and "Desktop" folder to another, so don't worry about that trouble. But you may have to reconfigure some software to your liking or reset some cookies.

Sorry that it's like this. But it's like this.
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tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

ok, on my laptop, i created an account with the exact same name and password as my other computer. i then had to do the xp home network setup again. i moved all my documents from the old user to the new user, and then deleted the old account. rebooted and tried to access again, and still get the same messages.

next suggestion?



funchords
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Well, I bet you're happy with me now!!

Can you reply with the IPCONFIG /ALL from both machines?


tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

Host name:laptop
primary dns suffix:
node type: unknown
IP Routing Enabled: no
WINS proxy enabled: no

ethernet adapter wireless network connection:
Connection-specific DNS suffix:
Description: Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI card
Physical address: *(hidden)*
dhcp enabled: yes
autoconfiguration enabled: yes
IP Address:192.168.2.2
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway:192.168.2.1
DHCP Server:192.168.2.1
DNS servers: 192.168.2.1 and 24.144.4.4

host name: desktop
primary dns suffix:
node type: unknown
IP routing enabled: no
WINS proxy enabled: no

ethernet adapter PCI ethernet:
connection-specific DNS suffix:
Description: Linksys LNE100TX fast ethernet adapter v4
Physical address: *(hidden)*
dhcp enabled: yes
autoconfiguration enabled: yes
ip address: 192.168.2.4
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.2.1
dhcp server: 192.168.2.1
dns servers: 192.168.2.1 and 24.144.4.4



funchords
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Node Type - XP Home Small Network Setup How-To

Both of your machines mention "node type: unknown" ... which really doesn't deal with sharing, security, and authentication but deals more with how to find a machine.

It can, however, cause the error you reported, "YOURSRVR is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource."

Still, see Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients. Personally I use b-node very successfully. The registry entry here is valid for XP.

If that doesn't work, I'm not sure what's going on. You should step through these two articles and see if we've forgotten to mention anything.

How to Set Up a Small Network with Windows XP Home Edition - Part 6
How to Set Up a Small Network with Windows XP Home Edition - Part 7

And if anything looks drastically different between this tutorial and your setup, let us know. It could be that some option was changed/added and that would be our clue...
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tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

hmm,well the first link wasnt much help...the steps were for windows 2000, NT, or 95...I'm running xp...

i look at the regestry values as if i were running NT, and didnt understand what i was looking for...

i went to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

but this is all i saw:
BcastNameQueryCount REG_DWORD 0x00000003(3)
BcastQueryTimeout REG_DWORD 0x000002ee(750)
CacheTimeout REG_DWORD 0c000927c0(600000)
EnableLMNHOSTS REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1)
NameServerPort REG_DWORD 0x00000089(137)
NameSrvQueryCount REG_DWORD 0x00000003(3)
NameSrvQueryTimeout REG_DWORD 0x000005dc(1500)
NbProvider REG_SZ _tcp
SessionKeepAlive REG_DWORD 0x0036ee80(3600000)
Size/Small/Medium/Large REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1)
TransportBindName REG_SZ \Device\

all this info is exactly the same for both computers

do you know what it all means?



funchords
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said by tlarkins:

hmm,well the first link wasnt much help...the steps were for windows 2000, NT, or 95...I'm running xp...
Yep, that's why I said, "The registry entry here is valid for XP." Perhaps you overlooked that.

Most of the Windows 2000 entries are the same between these two OS's.

said by tlarkins:

i went to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

do you know what it all means?
Most of it. There's nothing in there that is screaming "Change Me!"

If you really want to know what something here means, check this out: »support.microsoft.com/kb/314053/EN-US/
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TherapyChick

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Fayetteville, NC

reply to tlarkins
tlarkins, I know you stated in your earlier post that you had disabled your firewall... but man, it really, really sounds like what you get when a firewall is enabled and blocking somehow...

Would you double-check to make sure it is disabled, after the steps above, I would have thought for sure you'd be sharing by now.

I think you already did, but make sure file & print sharingis checked.

Now, just to make us happy, create a NEW account on both PC's with the same name called "newaccount" or whatever, but make sure it's completely different from the other account names you've been messing with, and make sure they have the same password.


tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

windows xp firewalls for both systems are disabled

file & print sharing are enabled for both systems

both systems have new accounts and passwords that match identically (this was a royal pain)

status unchanged though.

could my router be the problem? i mean, i am using wireless for my laptop...could the router be denying access? i have looked, but haven't seen anything screaming at me.



funchords
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said by tlarkins:

windows xp firewalls for both systems are disabled

file & print sharing are enabled for both systems

both systems have new accounts and passwords that match identically (this was a royal pain)

status unchanged though.

could my router be the problem? i mean, i am using wireless for my laptop...could the router be denying access? i have looked, but haven't seen anything screaming at me.
If the router was denying access, you would get a "cannot be reached" error. You're getting "access denied" which means that you're getting through.

Do both of these systems have the same "Node Type" when you run IPCONFIG /ALL?
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tlarkins

join:2005-06-28
Conway, AR

refer to my post above...i believe it said node type: unknown for both


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