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Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

As you probably know by now, Comcast has announced the New Speed Increases and Pricing.

An earlier thread here had discussions on what might be:
»Comcast tech says speed upgrades are coming !!!

As per the Comcast.net Forums Official Announcement thread:
»forums.comcast.net/thread.jspa?t···tstart=0

New Service/Price Chart
With these new speed offerings, Comcast will be offering the High-Speed Internet at the following tiers of service.

If you currently do not subscribe to any Comcast Cable TV or Comcast Phone services, you will have the following options for HSI available to you:

Down Up

(Mbps) (kbps) Price

4 384 $57.95

6 384 $67.95

8 768 $77.95

If you currently subscribe to Limited Comcast Cable TV service or Comcast Digital Voice, the following HSI options are available to you:

Down Up

(Mbps) (kbps) Price

4 384 $42.95

6 384 $52.95

8 768 $62.95

If you currently subscribe to at least Comcast Expanded Basic Cable TV service or above, the following HSI options are available to you:

Down Up

(Mbps) (kbps) Price

6 384 $42.95

8 768 $52.95

Modem Compatibility
If your current cable modem has been in service for more than 4 years, there is a chance that your modem may not be able to achieve these new speeds.

So if you are currently renting one of the modems not on the approved list from Comcast, please contact your local Comcast office to find instructions on how to upgrade your modem to a newer model. If you currently own one of the above modems, you may want to consider renting a modem from Comcast for a $3/month cost or replace the modem with a newer model in the FAQ list of approved modems above.

Mod Note: Updated link to the Comcast approved modem list added here per request of dadkins See Profile on 7-16-05. ~sorto'

»www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.j···ems17905


Good? Bad?
Discuss...

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

Ok just got word

Jason1 Re: Speed Upgrade Announcement (July 12, 2005) Jul 12, 2005 11:37 AM

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GDM,

> For those of us that don't have cable and our on the
> gold tier 6/768 what will happen to us? Move to
> 6/384 or ?

Most customers on this tier will be automatically upgraded to the faster 8Mbps/768kbps, which is the new premium tier Comcast is marketing. We will, of course, grandfather and continue to support any existing 6/768 customer who is currently paying for this service and wishes to keep it.

> If I get basic cable for $7 then the 8/768 would be
> $52 or $62?

With a basic Cable TV subscription through Comcast, the 8/768 tier will be $62.95/month. The only exception would be a customer who falls under the description of your first question, where some customers may be automatically upgraded to this speed for the $52.95/month price.

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Personally I think it's stupid and typical comcast fashion.

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

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Personally I think it's stupid and typical comcast fashion.
How in any way is this stupid??

It is basically giving Non-cable subscribers MORE choices to make (and in turn, pay less than they would).

You can keep what you have now - pay $10 more for 6 meg, or pay $20 more for 8 meg.
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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

It's stupid because I can guarantee you that the grand-father crap won't hold true. If they were going to give us choices they would keep the gold tier at the same pricing structure it has always been.

How is it fair for them to raise prices??? Explain to me how any of this for non-cable people is fair.

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

It's a business tactic, plain & simple to try and get more of the non cable tv subscribers to subscribe to at least expanded basic or pay more. I am not downright supporting the increase in pricing for non cable tv subscribers but can see where comcast is coming from.

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Hmmmm...... I subscribe to basic cable and have the 6000/768 speed tier for an additional $10.00. If I'm reading Jason's comments correctly, it's now going to cost another $10.00 (in addition to the FIRST $10.00) to keep my 768 upload!!

"With a basic Cable TV subscription through Comcast, the 8/768 tier will be $62.95/month. The only exception would be a customer who falls under the description of your first question, where some customers may be automatically upgraded to this speed for the $52.95/month price."

Am I missing something?

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

It appears that the only people that will keep their current prices are those who have at least expanded basic cable tv.

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No you wont have to pay an extra 10 dollars. It says clearly if you are a non cable tv customer it will be an extra 10 dollars for 6 mb and an extra 20 for 8 mb. Its been the same its always been where non cable tv users pay extra for internet.

Basically the upgrade is only affecting cable tv subscribers free of cost. If you are non cable and are currently at 6mb you will have to dish out another 10 for 8 mb. For the same price you do get to stay at 6mb. The only issue i see with this is that your upload will be decreased and you still will be paying the same.

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

No it's not it's changed. The new 6meg only has 384 upload and the 8meg goes to 768. Supposedly we will be grandfathered but I don't trust that will happen.

Also if a new non CATV person subscribes to HSI for $10 $67.95 more they get 6/384 and $20 $77.95 they get 8/768.

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said by JeepMatt See Profile:

It is basically giving Non-cable subscribers MORE choices to make (and in turn, pay less than they would).
I currently pay $63 for 6/768, so how is this going to be better for me?
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If you currently pay $63 for 6/768, your price shouldn't change. The $67 price mentioned above applies only to certain markets (some charge an extra $15 if you don't have cable, others charge $10)
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said by gdm See Profile:

> If I get basic cable for $7 then the 8/768 would be
> $52 or $62?

With a basic Cable TV subscription through Comcast, the 8/768 tier will be $62.95/month. The only exception would be a customer who falls under the description of your first question, where some customers may be automatically upgraded to this speed for the $52.95/month price.
I'm still a bit unclear (mostly due to Jason's use of "may be". We pay $52.95 for 6/768 HSI plus $15 for limited basic cable.

Assume sometime in the future the upgrade comes and I don't do anything. Do I:
a) pay exactly the same amount and get the exact same service speed?
b) get upgraded to faster speed and get charged $10 more
c) get upgraded to faster speed and pay more money
d) get downgraded to lower upload (same download) and pay the same?

B and D would put me consistent with the normal future pricing, whereas A and C both fit the term 'grandfathered'.
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Why do they keep saying the SB4100 can't do more than 5.8Mbps? It can do 10Mbps without any problems, OOL proves this.

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

I have the SB4100 and can achieve speeds over 4200 on the silver tier. I would expect the same when I am upgraded to 6mb.

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said by imrf See Profile:

Why do they keep saying the SB4100 can't do more than 5.8Mbps? It can do 10Mbps without any problems, OOL proves this.
I hope imrf is right. I own the SB4100 and here's my speed test result.

Download Speed: 6180 kbps (772.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 707 kbps (88.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

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said by imrf See Profile:

Why do they keep saying the SB4100 can't do more than 5.8Mbps? It can do 10Mbps without any problems, OOL proves this.
Maybe it can handle it. HOWEVER you won't receive what you can regularly get.

I get 1000Kbps more on the download with a Moto SB 5100 on the Gold Tier(6Mbps currently) and around 150Kbps more on the upload then with the Moto 4100.

Moto SB 4100- Down: 5275-5350 Upload: 600-625Kbps
Moto SB 5100- Down:6100-6275 Upload:750-768Kbps

There is a difference. I would think the difference would probably get bigger with higher speeds.

Signal is good.

SNR: 36dB
Down power level:-9 through -4 dB
Upload power level: 51 dBmV

I tested both at midnight where there would be less traffic on the sites and on my area although they don't see to change at all through the day so my node is probably not very congested.
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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

Do you have a router in the mix? There is an issue with the 4100s and 4200s and routers with 10Mbps WAN ports, and the combo not topping 5.5Mbps. I know plenty of people that have 4100s and 4200s with Comcast's 6Mbps package and get the advertised speeds all the time.

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said by imrf See Profile:

Do you have a router in the mix? There is an issue with the 4100s and 4200s and routers with 10Mbps WAN ports, and the combo not topping 5.5Mbps. I know plenty of people that have 4100s and 4200s with Comcast's 6Mbps package and get the advertised speeds all the time.
I have no router. I don't know what to say. Maybe luck of the modem?
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From Jason at Comcast.net:

"To all,

Apologies for the misinformation in the original post. Some of the modem information was inaccurate and the list of modems that may experiencing problems with the new speeds has been updated."

"If your current modem is not included in the list of modems above but is on the list of Approved Modems ( shown here ), you will not need to upgrade your modem in order to achieve these upcoming new speeds."

I have asked a Mod here to remove the listed modems from, the first post, since I cannot edit it any more.
Sorry for the confusion.

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said by thisismyname1 See Profile:

said by imrf See Profile:

Why do they keep saying the SB4100 can't do more than 5.8Mbps? It can do 10Mbps without any problems, OOL proves this.
Maybe it can handle it. HOWEVER you won't receive what you can regularly get.

I get 1000Kbps more on the download with a Moto SB 5100 on the Gold Tier(6Mbps currently) and around 150Kbps more on the upload then with the Moto 4100.

Moto SB 4100- Down: 5275-5350 Upload: 600-625Kbps
Moto SB 5100- Down:6100-6275 Upload:750-768Kbps

Here's my test with my Moto SB 4100

Download Speed: 6170 kbps (771.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 705 kbps (88.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

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I've officially stopped caring about this upgrade, it's making my brain hurt.
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Instead of increasing the speed all of the time, why can't they lower the price.

I would love a 2mb for $19.99 service.

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Sounds to me like they are going to upgrade to DOCSIS 2.0
It would make sense to announce the modems that are only 1.0 & 1.1 may not achieve new speeds in a DOCSIS 2.0 environment. It happened to me. When they upgraded us to 2.0, my 1.0 modem maxed out at 3700. New DOCSIS 2.0 modem took me to 4700.
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said by Johkal See Profile:

Sounds to me like they are going to upgrade to DOCSIS 2.0
It would make sense to announce the modems that are only 1.0 & 1.1 may not achieve new speeds in a DOCSIS 2.0 environment.
No, that's not it. There are still plenty on that list that are 1.0 and/or 1.1, the Motorola SB4200 for example, which is identical to the 4100. It's just that whoever keeps making that list or whoever is telling that person isn't too bright.

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said by Johkal See Profile:

Sounds to me like they are going to upgrade to DOCSIS 2.0
It would make sense to announce the modems that are only 1.0 & 1.1 may not achieve new speeds in a DOCSIS 2.0 environment.
No, that's not it. There are still plenty on that list that are 1.0 and/or 1.1, the Motorola SB4200 for example, which is identical to the 4100. It's just that whoever keeps making that list or whoever is telling that person isn't too bright.
What took you so long?
That makes more sense. Blindfold the employee formulating the list of approved modems and get him to throw a dart at the "Wheel of shitfull modems"
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said by Johkal See Profile:

Blindfold the employee formulating the list of approved modems and get him to throw a dart at the "Wheel of shitfull modems"
In the useless trivia department, there are 92 modems currently on Comcast's Approved Modem List. Cross-referencing Comcast's list with CableLabs cert list, 21 are certified up to DOCSIS 2.0, 28 up to DOCSIS 1.1, 38 DOCSIS 1.0 only, and 5 that do not even show up on CableLabs list with the model number shown in Comcast's list. There is one modem certified by CableLabs to 1.1 that Comcast claims cannot be upgraded and 21 modems that have no CableLabs cert above 1.0 that do not contain the This modem cannot be upgraded to comply with the DOCSIS 1.1 specification caveat on Comcast's list.

I would think that Comcast would want to make a move to ween the DOCSIS 1.0 modems off of their system in conjunction with the new bandwidth offers, if for no other reason than better local network management through QOS implementation introduced with DOCSIS 1.1.

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said by Johkal See Profile:

It would make sense to announce the modems that are only 1.0 & 1.1 may not achieve new speeds in a DOCSIS 2.0 environment. It happened to me. When they upgraded us to 2.0, my 1.0 modem maxed out at 3700. New DOCSIS 2.0 modem took me to 4700.
I seriously doubt that, enormously. In fact, I'm 100% sure that just won't happen, period.

Particularly since DOCSIS 2.0 does nothing to increase downstream speeds, it adds no new downstream modulation schemes. 256QAM is the best you can get right now. Get used to 38 Megabits per downstream channel, because it'd stick if they moved to DOCSIS 2.0.

The coincidence you had with moving to a DOCSIS 2.0 modem improving speed only happened because you probably had one of the few modems that there were serious problems with, or that simply couldn't go over that speed because of hardware limitations. Not because it wasn't DOCSIS 2.0 certified.
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I just asked how will this grandfathered option realllly work and this is the response. I am a little worried about how this is going to get handled. I never got notice when the upgrades happened last time.

GDM,

This may be subject to change but the information that I currently have available states that if you currently subscribe to HSI only at the Gold tier (6Mbps/768kbps), if you do nothing when the speed upgrades are rolled out, you will maintain this 6Mbps/768kbps service until you make any changes to your HSI service (i.e. if you temporarily cancel or move to another service tier, you will lose the option to return to the 6Mbps/768kbps service in the future).

Notification will likely be sent once upgrades have been completed in your area to notify you of the new services/options that are available but you will not have to take any action if you want to leave your service as it currently stands.

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said by dadkins See Profile:

If you currently subscribe to at least Comcast Expanded Basic Cable TV service or above, the following HSI options are available to you:

Down Up

(Mbps) (kbps) Price

6 384 $42.95

8 768 $52.95
It is not correct to say that one needs 'Expd./Std. Cable or above', because 'above' implies Std. and Digital. In reality, one just needs Std. or Digital. Please note this on your chart.

And, yes, one can get Digital packages w/o Std. cable. Of course, Ltd. Basic is always required.

"Comcast is delivering the faster 6Mbps speed to customers who also subscribe to its Standard or Digital Cable services* at no additional charge."

»phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht···=729042&

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

Sorry, I don't work for Comcast(contrary to what I have been accused of), I get most of my info where we all can... Comcast.net.

If I hear anything "new" I will post it here.

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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

Instead of speed and price increases. How about LOWERING the prices for the 4mb/384 for non-catv customers?

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said by wings10 See Profile:

Instead of speed and price increases. How about LOWERING the prices for the 4mb/384 for non-catv customers?
It's not a "Rollback" at Walmart.
They would rather give you more for your money.
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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

I was considering getting the 6/768 package for 10 more, but now with the upload halved, its not even close to worth it now the middle tier of 6/384 seems extremely pointless.
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said by dadkins See Profile:

Sorry, I don't work for Comcast(contrary to what I have been accused of), I get most of my info where we all can... Comcast.net.

If I hear anything "new" I will post it here.
Right, I see now that you were just relaying that info. So, the mod at Comcast.net is not exactly right.

The link I provided was from the Comcast Press Room, (in case you didn't check it out), so I would say that it is official.

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Actually, the article you linked to is a copy from »www.prnewswire.com/ PRNewswire, a news service. Not from Comcast's PR Headquarters.
Direct link to the PRNewswire article:
»www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori···1&EDATE=

From Jason1 in the Comcast.net thread linked in my first post:

"The first post in this thread has come from the official announcement on the speed upgrades that were delivered to all Comcast HSI employees today and does contain the correct speed tier values."

Yes, I am just the messenger.

EDIT: A tidbit from your linked article:
"* Comcast Standard Cable is made up of nearly 50 of the most popular cable networks such as CNN, Fox News, CNBC, MSNBC, ESPN, Discovery, History, The Learning Channel, and more."

Basic cable is 36 channels. Most(all?) of these listed channels are not included in Basic cable.
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Actually, the article you linked to is a copy from »www.prnewswire.com/
I am aware of what Ltd. Basic/Basic and Std./Expd. service include, but your quoting that note about channels should have benefited others, but apparantly not, as people are still asking the difference between the two.(Note: Even in the same area, they use different terms interchangeably, as I have listed above.)

'Ltd. Basic/Basic' is the lowest tier, it includes just the locals, plus a few, usually, educational channels. (It is required for any other level of TV service.)

'Std./Expd'. service is all of the other 'cable' (non-premium) channels.
(Except, some areas have a few 'cable' channels in a 'Value Pak')

Together, all of the analog packages are called 'Preferred' service.


If you get 36 Basic channels, Std. would have an additional ~50 'cable' channels, according to the press release. As I say above, there is no overlap in the tiers.

As far as the quoted press release, I would say it is also official because Comcast posted it on their site. I am sure, soon, their PR headquarters will have a press release, too.

I dont think the mod. meant to say anything different than the press release, I think, he just didn't take into account Digital with just Ltd. Basic. Or more likely, one could interpret having only Digital service (w/Ltd. Basic) as being 'above' Expd. service. Especially since I read the mod. say this (third post on the page linked):

"Correct, if you have digital cable, you will receive the upgrade in speed at no extra cost (4Mbps/386kbps goes to 6Mbps/386kbps and 6Mbps/768kbps goes to 8Mbps/768kbps)."

»forums.comcast.net/thread.jspa?t···tstart=0

Comcast will certainly post their policy on their site, once this upgrade takes effect, as they have done so before. For example, for the DVR, it says Digital Cable is required in this area. In some areas, it is Expd. service. I don't think it is both in any area.

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lazsheriff;

I think you misread my post, since in your last sentence you state exactly what I was trying to convey.

My point was that to keep my 768 upload, for which I am currently paying $52.95 ($42.95 + $10.00), I will have to pay yet another $10.00, bringing the total to $62.95.

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I would be very happy to be able to get the 4 384 I currently pay for, 24 hours a day.

As it is now the only time I can get this speed is after 2am until around 11am. The rest of the day, it is at least 25% lower on the download side, with large packet losses down stream from me.

Several truck rolls have resulted in no change. When I tested my next door neighbour system, he has the same problem, but does not really care because of very light uses, mostly a few emails a day.

As for higher speeds.... good luck. I just want the current speeds reliably 24 hours a day.

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Ok I currently have 4Mb, for me there is no difference between 4Mb and 6Mb, so whats the points. If I ever, or whenever I max out my connection it doesn't last more than couple hours anyways.

Why not make the upload at least 512Kb, other wise what is the point of the upgrade. It only looks good on paper against dsl speeds...

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Re: Yey 2 Mb extra speed

For me, kicking it north to 6 Mbit/sec *is* a big help. In fact, 6000/768 also doubles my *upload* bandwidth (currently @ 384). Even better, I'm right in the crosshairs (DC Metro area, specifically, Prince George's County, MD). Why is Comcast doing this? In a word: FIOS.

Also, according to MCN, *existing* Comcast HSI customers get upgraded at zero additional cost (unless you have to upgrade your modem) which follows Comcast's current guidelinbes (I went from 3 Mbit to 4 Mbit at no extra cost). Upgrading my modem was eventually going to have to happen anyway, as my current SB4100 is five years old, and the new modem will cost less than than my current one did new. Fortunately, it will be replaced with another Moto (SB5100, of course).
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I'm confused now. I currently have Basic Cable TV and the 4mbps/384kbps high speed internet. So what does this speed upgrade mean for me? Am I staying where I'm at or being upgraded on downstream only to 6mbps?

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why don't they turn up the upload as well?!?!?! everyone else is doing it, why can't they? I can't wait til they light that fiber in my front yard.

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why don't they turn up the upload as well?!?!?! everyone else is doing it, why can't they? I can't wait til they light that fiber in my front yard.
Marketing! The average broadband customer doesn't upload as much as download.
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Marketing! The average broadband customer doesn't upload as much as download.
No - control. The more upstream bandwidth Comcast allows, the less control they have over customers originating their own content.

fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto'

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said by Johkal See Profile:

said by briandg See Profile:

why don't they turn up the upload as well?!?!?! everyone else is doing it, why can't they? I can't wait til they light that fiber in my front yard.
Marketing! The average broadband customer doesn't upload as much as download.
Sadly, it's much more than that.

There are a number of reasons. Comcast doesn't want to do because increasing the upstream cap would:
•Increase/Encourage P2P use, especially BT
•Make Comcast HSI subscribers more attractive as "zombie" machines
•Either overload the 1.6 Mhz wide QPSK or 16QAM modulated upstream channels (2.3 megabits and 4.6 megabits of bandwidth respectively) which are already small enough and would seriously degrade all traffic, or require more upstream channels to be added

Plus, I seriously doubt that it'd be harder to market a higher number over a lower one, even if the customer doesn't know what benefit that gives.

I also already posted (in the last upgrade thread) that I received word from a very reputable source that comcast would be gradually moving to faster upstream speeds coinciding with this already publicly acknowledged downstream speed upgrade.
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Some people have said the SB4100 gets speeds upto 10Mb (proven by OOL), does anyone know about the SB3100? It's on the list of modems not supportive of the new speeds, I just want to make sure.

I planned on upgrading the modem soon, and this will give me an excuse to do so, if I actually do need to.

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fegul
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join:2004-08-23
united state

I'm very ticked off about the prices. I don't watch much TV, so I'd be paying almost $10 more a month to RETAIN the same tier I have now (4mb) This might just make me move to Qwest since Comcast refuses to give current customers any discounts in my area. I just can't explain how ticked off I am right now
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eldorado1640

join:2005-04-03
Littleton, CO

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

fegul,

Your price shouldn't be going up. You'll still get the 4Mb for $52.95 (if you don't have cable TV or if you have basic cable). If you had expanded basic cable, you would get 6Mb for $42.95.

Qumahlin
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united state


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There is another higher tier coming, looks like its been delayed. Was pretty much supposed to be 15/768, later bumped to 15/1. No clue as to why the change.

As for that modem compatibility list...i'm honestly not quite sure why we continue to post that drivel since I only work locally and not on a corp level. Personally I think it's a way to push people into upgrading to newer 2.0 modems since slowly but surely we are upgrading systems to 2.0 readiness.

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Cyberia0500

join:2001-11-03
Lake Oswego, OR

I am really starting to care less about my download speed, im at around 9 right now because of those oregon tests, upload is what you want and of course upload is what they never give you, truth of the matter is the more upload you have the faster you will see things load, the lower ping you will get in games etc

imrf
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Utica, MI
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Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

said by Cyberia0500 See Profile:

truth of the matter is the more upload you have the faster you will see things load, the lower ping you will get in games etc
That's far from the truth. There is no ping difference between a 256Kbps upload versus a 1Mbps upload, what matters is the routing and peering agreements that the cable or dsl provider has.

GotNoRice
Internet Cynic

join:2001-12-04
Pleasant Hill, CA
6600/768 -> 8000/768

Some upgrade...

Amadeus
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Miami, FL

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

anyone?

djdanska
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Nothing like screwing those of us who don't want cable tv.

Im not paying an additional $46.99 for expanded cable tv to get 8 Mbps down. Sad...
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Beaverton, OR

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

said by djdanska See Profile:

Nothing like screwing those of us who don't want cable tv.

Im not paying an additional $46.99 for expanded cable tv to get 8 Mbps down. Sad...
If the prices listed at the beginning of this thread are right, they are REALLY gouging the people who don't want their crappy cable tv service. I'm not impressed with this at all.

fegul
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united state

In this article, it says there are no price increases;
»news.com.com/Comcast+revs+up+dow···ubj=news
I hope thats true
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Amadeus
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join:2005-05-02
Miami, FL

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

Yeah i think it is just a free upgrade. but i haven't heard anything about the business packages. Does anyone know if they will be upgraded?

oldTDNickell
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Federal Way, WA

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

said by Amadeus See Profile:

Yeah i think it is just a free upgrade. but i haven't heard anything about the business packages. Does anyone know if they will be upgraded?
This has nothing to do with business packages.

Comcast Delivers New Ultra-Fast Speed Tiers - 8Mbps and 6Mbps

Comcast is Twice as Fast as DSL, Delivers Reliable Speed

PHILADELPHIA, July 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Comcast, the nation's Number One broadband provider, today announced it is enhancing its residential speed tiers, introducing new, faster speeds to deliver the ultimate broadband experience - 8Mbps/768kbps and 6Mbps/384kbps.

Since first setting the industry benchmark for speed in October 2003, this marks the third time Comcast has raised broadband speeds for its customers. Comcast has increased its downstream speeds more than 400% in less than two years, and has built a network that has virtually unlimited capacity to deliver higher speeds.

The speed upgrades will begin this month in eastern and central Pennsylvania, New England, New Jersey, Maryland, Michigan and Washington, D.C., with nearly all Comcast markets scheduled to be complete this summer. The speed increases will be automatic, which means customers are not required to download any special files or upgrade their connections.

"Comcast offers customers a fundamentally better Internet experience. Our service is fast, reliable, easy to use, and packed with great features and value," said Steve Burke, President of Comcast Cable and COO of Comcast Corporation. "Our new 8 and 6Mbps speeds are ideal for anyone living in the Comcast network - from the mainstream broadband user to the dial-up customer looking to switch to something faster."

Comcast focuses on adding value every time its more than 7.4 million High- Speed Internet customers connect to the Internet or log onto Comcast.net. The new 8Mbps and 6Mbps downstream speeds will allow customers to instantly access their favorite content and features on Comcast.net - communication, games, kids, movies, music and sports. Because of the new ultra-fast connection speeds, Comcast customers will more easily be able to:

Share photo slideshows with music via Comcast PhotoShow Deluxe
Send video greetings with Comcast Video Mail
Stream online music or download songs from the Comcast.net Music Channel
Download online games and experience better game play with Comcast Games on Demand.
Comcast is delivering the faster 6Mbps speed to customers who also subscribe to its Standard or Digital Cable services* at no additional charge. These customers also will also have the option of jumping to the faster 8Mbps for only $10 more per month.
About Comcast
Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) (»www.comcast.com) is the nation's leading provider of cable, entertainment and communications products and services. With 21.5 million cable customers, 7.4 million high-speed Internet customers, and 1.2 million voice customers, Comcast is principally involved in the development, management and operation of broadband cable networks and in the delivery of programming content.


Amadeus
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Miami, FL

Re: Comcast Summer 2005 Speed Upgrade Discussion

that sucks. I guess i will have to give crapcast a call, i can't wait until fios comes to my area screw CRAPCAST..
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