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jsimmons
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Falls Church, VA

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Re: Success with WRT54GX Firmware on Belkin Pre-N!

Congrats! This is very interesting. Brings back fond memories of my first venerable Netgear rt314 router which I flashed with the ZyXEL p314 firmware (the Netgear rt314 was a ZyXEL p314 in Netgear clothes ). Eventually ZyXEL got wind of what people were doing and modified their firmware so it only ran on ZyXEL branded hardware.

I use my Belkin Pre-N strictly as an access point too. I will probably try the WRT54GX firmware soon... I believe Linksys will be far ahead of Belkin in terms of firmware quality and features for some time.

If the WRT54GX firmware is fully functional on the Belkin, this means that Sveasoft will have very little to do to make any Pre-N firmware they produce work on both Linksys and belkin units. Should be exciting.
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cman2005

join:2005-02-26

I done the modification to the eu linksys firmware and flashed it onto my belkin pre n router - great it worked and all seems to work fine at the moment.

If you do this flash make sure you double check your settings as it seemed to take everything accross ok but the dhcp scope I was leasing it have 192.168.2. 192.168.2.2

when it should have just been 192.168.2.2 interesting but easily corrected.

:D:D:D

cman2005

join:2005-02-26


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wpa is working fine as that's what I use

I too do not use it as a main router - however I do not use it as an AP so I guess it will work for anyone who uses it as a main router as it is working fine for the way I am using it.

The other major benefit is that if someone goes to the routers ip address in a browser they do not see all the info like the belkin one showed - this is how it should be secure!! :):)


jsimmons
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Falls Church, VA

reply to cman2005
Maybe if Belkin hears that customers are turning their Pre-N routers into Linksys devices, they'll step up their efforts to fix their firmware. One could only hope.
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cman2005

join:2005-02-26

reply to cman2005
doubt belkin will speed up.

anyway heres a little update WPA2 works great - obviously you need the WPA2 patch for XP
»www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta···ylang=en

not sure if there is anything special that needs to be tested for WPA2 but I'm happy.

Does anyone know if there is a patch to allow W2K to work with WPA2??


jsimmons
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join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA

I'm not sure about Win2K.

Can you do a quick check to see if the WRT54GX firmware supports Radius authentication? If it does, I'm sold. I'll be flashing this baby in short order.
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cman2005

join:2005-02-26


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deleted and reattached to prevent margin blowout -nozero
It has it listed see my screen capture not sure if it works.

sorry about the bad quality but saved it as a gif as the forum doesn't want bmps.

anyway time to sleep now as it is 2:00am in uk let me know if there is anything else.


mozerd
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Can you do a quick check to see if the WRT54GX firmware supports Radius authentication?
Yes, the WRT54GX firmware does support Radius authentication And logging info is very superior.
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jsimmons
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Strange... I gave up my old WRT54GS to get better wireless range and speed with the Belkin Pre-N. Did this before Linksys released the WRT54GX. The Linksys firmware (and 3rd party derivatives) were very feature rich and my first impression was that the Belkin firmware was a bit "thin" in comparison. Made me wish I had waited longer and gotten WRT54GX instead.

Now it looks like I can have my Linksys in a stylish Belkin package.

Time to break out my hex editor and do some flashin.
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jsimmons
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Interesting that embedded in the Linksys firmware is a text string mentioning Belkin. See Screenshot. Not sure what thats all about.
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Doctor Olds
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said by jsimmons See Profile:

See Screenshot. Not sure what thats all about.
What hex editor is that if you don't mind me asking? It's strange as it does not show its name or the file path, but it does looks kind of nice...
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jsimmons
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said by Doctor Olds See Profile:

said by jsimmons See Profile:

See Screenshot. Not sure what thats all about.
What hex editor is that if you don't mind me asking? It's strange as it does not show its name or the file path, but it does looks kind of nice...
LOL... The reason it does not show that info is I lopped off the top of the window when I snapshotted the screen. The editor is called "HHD Software Free HEX Editor", Info available here: »www.hhdsoftware.com/free-hex-editor.html
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jsimmons
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I went ahead and flashed to the WRT54GX. Worked perfectly. Preserved all my "belkin" settings. WPA/Radius with AES works fine with my RADIUS server.

One difference. With belkin firmware, you use the WAN port to connect to your local LAN when running in AP-only mode. With Linksys firmware, you must use a LAN port when running in AP mode, and leave the WAN port unused (If anyone learns otherwise, let us know ). This is pretty standard for Linksys as that is how the WRT54G and GS models worked.

Also, the DHCP server address range settings are not picked up correctly. Since I disabled DHCP, it didn't make any difference. But those who use the built-in DHCP server will need to adjust the values.

After I run for a while and make sure everything is hunky dorey, I'll try to flash back to Belkin firmware. I see no reason why that wouldn't work, though.

I'm posting this msg from my Dell laptop connected to the Pre-N with Linksys firmware. So its working fine at the moment.

This is very cool.
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mozerd
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said by jsimmons See Profile:

Maybe if Belkin hears that customers are turning their Pre-N routers into Linksys devices, they'll step up their efforts to fix their firmware. One could only hope.
IMO Belkin will be singing halleluiah tunes all the way to the BANK because as word of this firmware port spreads like wildfire F5D8230-4 sales will boom ... and Linksys will be mad as hell .... I suspect that Linksys will make some changes that may prevent their newer firmware from working on the F5D8230-4. This is defiantly to Belkin’s advantage --- why spend money a new firmware if theirs works better and my boxes are 25% cheaper?
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jsimmons
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Falls Church, VA

Yep, I agree to an extent. In my past experience with Netgear/ZyXEL, ZyXEL put the kabosh on using their firmware on the netgear branded box because of customer support issues.
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jonazen
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Ah well...that would be a shame. The Linksys firmware certainly offers better features overall, and the router logging is actually usable (although I still wish it offered the ability to autosave and/or email logs).

Hopefully Linksys won't do anything to block us from using the firmware until Sveasoft has their act together re: F5D8230-4. Then we'll have an alternate upgrade path to follow.
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fitz6544

join:2002-06-01
Clemmons, NC

reply to jsimmons
Let me see if I've got this right for my Belkin 8230...

I've modified the Linksys firmware v 1.02.06USA and changed the first 3 pairs of hex characters to match my Belkin firmare v 1.01.03 (00 2F 01).

Then all I need to do is browse to this file through the web interface and update?

This sounds way too easy!

GeorgeG

join:2005-07-23
New York, NY
reply to mozerd
As of July 19th, there is a new firmware update for the WRT54GX on the Linksys site. V2.0. Has anyone tried it with the Pre-N yet?


jsimmons
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Falls Church, VA


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You should read the thread ... Asked and answered already: »Success with WRT54GX Firmware on Belkin Pre-N!

And this firmware has been tried on a WRT54GX v1.. No go: »Success with WRT54GX Firmware on Belkin Pre-N!
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