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justinw76

join:2004-08-11
reply to oliphant

Re: Anyone wanting this...

I did check to make sure broadband was available when i bought my house. Verizon told me it was, my number qualified when i finished building. I placed the order, and then 3 weeks later they told me that it wasn't. They didn't tell me until I called after they missed 2 of their scheduled install/activation dates. Wouldn't tell me when it would be available either.


Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks

join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO
Ouch, that same thing happened to me with Qwest once.

justinw76

join:2004-08-11
What's even worse is that I pay $90/month for an ISDN line.

PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
quote:
Incumbents aren't charities. They shouldn't be forced to lose money to service some residents.
Who says they have to lose money? Call it "rural DSL" or "small town DSL" or some such, and charge $100 a month for it. They'll get plenty of takers in areas where satellite and ISDN are the only alternatives. But they should make it available in areas where it is technically feasible for them to do so.

Broadband is no longer a luxury. Most websites now are like Korean and Japanese websites were 5 years ago: they assume the viewer has broadband, and is painstakingly slow on dialup. Windows updates are now all but impossible on dialup, and these are critical to the security of one's machine and to the 'net at large.


oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
The issue comes to whether the PUC would permit that as they (the providers) are governed by the tariffs they have with the state which more often than not govern the price.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to PDXPLT
Your nuts! Broadband is a luxury and will be until your actual life depends on it, not to better your life but your actual life. Services like water, sewer, electricity, telephone, cable, ability to go 1 mile to a local store or gas station, and trash service are all a luxury. We just take them for granted regardless of how we may think we can't live without them.

And dont start with the.... how can I improve my life if I can't get it or I'm being handicapped (or left out of the world) because I cant get it campaigns.


An10

@dixie-net.com

1 recommendation

Dare you to try it.

I dare to try that: Live without all those services for about six months. Take no showers (unless you live near a river or lake or pond), use the bathroom outside, and turn on not one light--no AC or heat either. Unhook all the phones and never turn on your TV. Oh, and the only stores you can go to have to be five miles or further away. And just dump your trash somewhere in your yard...probably near wherever you're using the bathroom would be best. See how well you do.

I picked that out 'cause its a total crock.

But while I'm here--someone explain how broadband companies are able to stop people from installing their own broadband service, and why they want to stop it. Am I missing something?

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to PDXPLT

Re: Anyone wanting this...

quote:
Windows updates are now all but impossible on dialup, and these are critical to the security of one's machine and to the 'net at large.
3 things wrong with that statement:
1) Smart businesses ditched Windows on the 'net long ago.
2) If you really care about security you don't use Windows. You use the better alternatives (Linux, Mac)
3) If you're on Dial-up, even if your PC is a zombie bot, you're not doing much work at all to "crash the net"


oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
Add to that, Microsoft offers updates via CD.


kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
reply to PDXPLT
quote:
Who says they have to lose money? Call it "rural DSL" or "small town DSL" or some such, and charge $100 a month for it. They'll get plenty of takers in areas where satellite and ISDN are the only alternatives. But they should make it available in areas where it is technically feasible for them to do so.
They don't really want broadband. They want cheap broadband. If broadband were truly a necessity, they could easily have T1 line installed to their homes in a couple of weeks. They want their three megaton DSL for 30 bucks, and that won't make them happy for long.