marketex
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Re: Well do you blame them
No, Dave, some of us "roll our own" subroutines which is why the concept of incorporation of each of the pilfered devices as claims within a patented and pirated program is tantamount to a particular writer one day deciding to patent all the vowels in the alphabet.
It is rather ironic that the least innovative producer of computer software does the most to limit creativity on the parts of other creators of software while protesting to the Attorney General that any fetters on its market position would impede market innovation.
But, then, Bill is a friend of yours, right? Schoolyard kind of buddy? Like "MS is Piracy" suggests?
Bill will eventually get your lunch-money. Check with his former employees for a reference on that point. |
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marketex
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MS is piracy
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Re: Well do you blame them
dave, you do have to admit, MS had brass balls to: 1) pretty much outright "steal" Stacker's runtime disk-compression products' features (*), 2) integrated it into MS-DOS, including a new API that would allow pre-loading the driver, and 3) turn around and sue Stacker, for "theft of trade secrets", for developing an updated version of their product to work with that new API.
(*) Not just features - MS's actual compression implementation infringed on Stacker's LZS (Lempel-Ziv Stacker) patent, IIRC.
There is pretty much nothing new under the sun coming from MS. Every single thing that they "innovated", that I am aware of, was "stolen" from someone else.
MS, the playground bully, got rich by stealing the lunch money from the naive children of rich parent, not by earning the money themselves - to make an analogy. |
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dave
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said by marketex  :Bill Gates is, perhaps, a genius at playing poker, requiring huge skills at bluffing. He did not think up the idea of emoticons any more than he thought up Drivespace or the browser or Disk Operating System (the original DOS) or the GUI or Java, each of which he attempted to appropriate as his own. Can you spell T-H-I-E-F? Come to think of it, he didn't think up the idea of 'computer program' (probably John Von Neumann), or 'subroutine linkage' (David Wheeler), or 'operating system' (the Atlas team, under Tom Kilburn).
What a thief!
And that goes for anyone else who writes software, too! |
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noogoo
join:2005-06-27 | reply to bit_junkie
who needs e-TP when you can have e-Bidet? |
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bth_lonewolf
join:2005-03-28
Summerfield, NC
| reply to MS is piracy
said by MS is piracy:
BurstNet.
Opera Software.
Novell.
Need I go on?
Novell: The Netware issue had nothing to do w/ IP theft (unless you're discussing something else).
Opera: Nope, not over IP theft. (Was about MSN not working correctly in Opera, and Opera claims it was intentional to maintain market dominance.)
Burstnet -- you mean Burst.com? (Streaming?) -- yeah, this one has some merit, certainly at least seems suspicious.
I'm not saying that IP Theft has never happened (in ANY company -- there's plenty of suits involving IBM and other large companies). I just can't stand generalizations -- 2/3 examples you posted had nothing to do with IP theft -- and you exactly proved my point. You make it sound like it's a corporate objective for employees to go out and steal. Unfortunately, a single employee doing something wrong can get the company into a LOT of hot water. For all the small companies doing it, most of it will go undetected.
I also won't say antitrust cases have never happened, but frankly I find many cases BS. Whatever you think about Microsoft, how many hundreds of half-baked lawsuits are filed against Microsoft so companies could get a pile of cash? |
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marketex
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Bill Gates is, perhaps, a genius at playing poker, requiring huge skills at bluffing. He did not think up the idea of emoticons any more than he thought up Drivespace or the browser or Disk Operating System (the original DOS) or the GUI or Java, each of which he attempted to appropriate as his own. Can you spell T-H-I-E-F? |
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MS is piracy
@verizon.net
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Hmm.
BurstNet.
Opera Software.
Novell.
Need I go on? Those were just off of the top of my head, but I'm sure that I can dig up quite a few more with a little help from Google.
The parent post spoke the truth. MS is the biggest corporate intellectual-property pirate there is. The ARE a 1000lb Gorilla. (They've grown since they used to be an 800lb Gorilla.) |
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA | reply to David
Will it accept dual sided quick ram.? Maybe it'll prove itself to be a splash in the can. 
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Honk if you've never seen an uzi fired from a car window |
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David
No,there is another.
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Granite City, IL
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I preferr the multi-pass till it is clean... Like a clean bottom.. |
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ
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dont forget about the I-Toilet
this guy and apple might have something to say about the E-toilet, before MS gets a patent on the idea lol:D
»www.electric-chicken.co.uk/itoilet.html |
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hayabusa3303
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | reply to click_310
what about the "Virtaul Crap" thats makes the mess. |
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bth_lonewolf
join:2005-03-28
Summerfield, NC | reply to DprssdIsntFn
That's an absurd generalization, and just frankly not true. |
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a
@qwest.net | reply to jaorgeron
mark, the only reason you are not pleased is because you didn't think of it yourself, give yourself a break, if you were a genious like bill gates then you would have thought of it. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | reply to Smitedogg
I preffer the triple pass. May be slower, but gets the job done better.
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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Dont forget about the E-Toilet and iShit as well as the all-new Vista-Flush! |
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Smitedogg
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said by MikegotOOL :Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper. One-Pass Wiping |
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DprssdIsntFn
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Pompton Lakes, NJ | reply to jaorgeron
Actually ... yes.
Stealing IP and then paying for it under court order is standard procedure for Microsoft. I've long since lost track of the number of cases they've lost and then settled.
They are the worst offenders. |
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click_310
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join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
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said by MikegotOOL :Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper. They'll have to patent the,"Virtual Ass" first. |
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MikegotOOL
join:2001-01-21
East Setauket, NY
clubs: | reply to jaorgeron
Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper. |
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