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beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

[Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera on DSL, no luck

Well, i'm trying to set up a network camera. I tried this on a cable internet connection, no problem at all. On DSL, that's another story. I can view the camera on the network, but the web is another story. Basically all I have to do is set the port for it to broadcast, then forward them in the router, no luck. I don't know what's going on, I don't know if Bellsouth is blocking stuff of what, but i'm almost about to give up. So far I have set the port to 8000, and also tried 8080. I've tried others, but I forget which ones. Like I said I have no idea what they block, if anything. Also, I can't even ping the ip address! Its there (I think), but I get 100% loss, i'm getting mad. The first #'s on the ip address are 65.... I don't know if this is internal or what, but when I log in the modem there is an internal ip address listed that starts with 68, but it doesn't even work. I know i'm rambling on and getting no where, maybe someone knows something and understands WTF i'm saying.

heels_fan
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join:2003-02-07
Columbia, TN

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

are you going thru a router or anything? how is the Cam hooked up?

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera on DSL, no luck

Yes, I am going through a linksys router, wired.
shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

if you are handy now, go to you router, check the wan status and see what ip address it has. post the first octet.
shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

if my last post was not understandable, post and we can continue.

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

Hmmm, well I do recall looking at the status, and the ip address was 192.168.48 or something like that, it wasn't your typical 65-68.x.x.x, its set on "Automatic - DHCP" (I don't know if it should be set on pppoe, but internet for all the computers work). This camera is at a friends house that i'm setting up, so i'm not familiar with DSL.
shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

what type of bellsouth provided dsl device do you have?

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

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Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

we are looking for a piece of hardware... westell... netopia..

Splitpair
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Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US

Sounds like you are double nat'ing where you have both the linky and the westel doing DHCP with the westell assigning the wan side ip of the linky and then the linky assigning the ip's of the machines.

Wayne
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weedahoe

join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

said by Splitpair See Profile:

Sounds like you are double nat'ing where you have both the linky and the westel doing DHCP with the westell assigning the wan side ip of the linky and then the linky assigning the ip's of the machines.

Wayne
I would agree as most people do not understand what they have and what they are actually doing by adding a Linksys ( or another type router ) behind a Westell, The on top of all that people go and buy Norton Int Sec or some other software firewall and wonder why they have surfing/speed issues.

I have a XP system setup with an internal quadraplex 8 port PCI card used to view 4 day/night cameras which all of it I bought off Ebay for hardly nothing. I have a 2wire with my XP ICF disabled. I can view my cams inside my network just fine and as long as I have my correct port forwarded to the correct DHCP IP on my sustem and the viewing software set up with the same port I can then view my cams from anywhere. I used to have a SIP but no longer do as I downgraded my service for money saving reasons but have a domain registered through NO-IP that I use now with no probs. It really isnt that hard getting everything to work but you really need to know what all you have and how you need to set eveything up. I know that is why that person is here but we really will need a complete listing of all equipment or maybe the best thing to do is have that person call thier ISP with a conference call to the camera system techs.

Splitpair
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Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US

That ain't gonna work as that will show the lan ip not the wan ip. The poster needs to go into the DSL router in this case a Westell to pull the wan ip.

Wayne
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beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

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Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera on DSL, no luck

Westell

EDIT: LOL, I thought you said service, I thought WTF? and just went along, sorry.
shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

ok. you ready? print this or write it down before you start. you will lose your internet connection and will not get it back if there is a problem.

you need to know the bellsouth user id and password. it will be something like hairyhunkofluv@bellsouth.net. you will also need to know the password. if you don't know both you will have problems. say so in advance. anyway. surf to your linksys and change the internet connection type from dhcp to pppoe. enter your bellsouth user id and password. include the @bellsouth.net. nothing else is required. save the settings. in the back of the westell, push and hold the reset button for 5 seconds. turn the westell off then on. when the dsl or ready light is solid green, turn the linksys off then on. reboot the computer. post if you can connect again. if you cannot, buy your friend a snack and go to the bar.

joako
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·AT&T U-Verse

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

said by shutheight See Profile:

ok. you ready? print this or write it down before you start. you will lose your internet connection and will not get it back if there is a problem.

you need to know the bellsouth user id and password. it will be something like hairyhunkofluv@bellsouth.net. you will also need to know the password. if you don't know both you will have problems. say so in advance. anyway. surf to your linksys and change the internet connection type from dhcp to pppoe. enter your bellsouth user id and password. include the @bellsouth.net. nothing else is required. save the settings. in the back of the westell, push and hold the reset button for 5 seconds. turn the westell off then on. when the dsl or ready light is solid green, turn the linksys off then on. reboot the computer. post if you can connect again. if you cannot, buy your friend a snack and go to the bar.
If you have never changed the password, it will be your 7-digit phone number.
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shutheight

join:2004-09-18
lordfly has great info, but is does not apply in your case.

lordfly

join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL
·AT&T Southeast

I have had three going all at the same time using three different computers. I can monitor different areas around my house from work. I am using the free Windows Media Encoder which so far has been the only thing I could to work right.

My suggestions:
1) setup up a dynamic dns through dyndns.org. Now if you have a static IP then you can make it a static and in both cases you only have to remember a name, not a number.

2) find out what port the webcam software is using. You will need to forward through the linksys router the port to the computer you are running the webcam on. Since I have a STH Home set as a PRO, I first have to forward the port on my modem to my router and then the router forwards it to the appropriate computer. I am not familar with the Westel at all.

3) Oh, and if you are running Windows XP with the built-in firewall, make sure you set in the firewall an exception for that port. Of course if this is already working inside your network then this is not a problem.

4) Good Luck! This takes some trial and error.

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL
K, so I just switch from DHCP to PPPOE? CAN DO!

As for the last suggestion, I did all of those before, in fact I already had it set up on a cable connection, so I know it works, just this DSL crap got me stumped.
shutheight

join:2004-09-18

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

hitting the reset button on the westell is key. if you follow my instructions, we will be able to proceed. there is still more to the story. you need to get step one right first. post if you went through my instructions and were able to surf. if, after my instructions you cannot surf, eat, drink, 2 aspirin and call me in the morning.

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL
Well keep on going with the directions, i'll take them into consideration. Since its at a friends house I can't do it all right here, and he's probably reluctant to do it himself.

joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
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These are a little more in-depth: »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »How do I properly set up a Linksys router for use with a Westell modem?

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

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Well ain't that dandy!
I'm familiar with linksys and how to set up pppoe, I had DSL at one point in time. I recall being in his Westell modem, and I clicked "Expert Mode" and it didn't work. I guess i'll learn more tomorrow.

Splitpair
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join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US


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Check the FAQ's here for instructions on setting up a pinhole aka passthrough in the Westell. You will use that information to map an external request to a port on your wan IP to the lan port and IP of your webcam. Since you are more than likely using DHCP you will need to hardcode the IP of the webcam on the nic of the machine running the webcam to keep things simple.
Wayne

»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »How do I open/forward ports on a Westell?
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beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

Oh sweet jesus, there it is! I need to forward the ports in the MODEM too, if only the "Expert Mode" button worked I would not be having any problems and would have been able to trouble shoot my way from there, I don't know if his modem is screwed up or what, but i'm heading out the door right now to go see.

Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera on DSL, no luck

Let us know I will keep an eye on the forum if call for help is needed.

It will give me an excuse to take a break from mixing and pouring cement for a tower base to sit down and reply.

Wayne

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If you can't fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician.

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

Well, I decided to give up. Why? I can't keep doing this stuff at a friends house bugging him all the time (even though he doesn't mind). I'm going to wait for my DSL package to come and experiment with it once I get it. I did some last minute stuff to see if I could get it to work, it didn't. One thing I didn't do is set up pppoe on his router, reason, I don't know is password (and don't want too, don't have time to ask). I think I got it all down, I should be able to get it to work fine once I get DSL. I believe i'll probably be getting the 2 wire modem.....
The web camera is for a tourism website i'm setting up.

ANoni

@cox.net
This is a 5 minute fix MAX!!

beechbum

join:2005-02-17
Pensacola, FL

Re: [Home Network] Trying to set up a web camera o

What you say?
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