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gnexus

join:2005-06-24

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reply to centric

Re: FWD-Free world diapup, how does it work?

said by centric:

So, what I need is:

1. Examples of per minute providers for voip like voxiee.
2. A way to obtain and/or port a local number w/ a SIP I buy.
3. I need incoming/outgoing calling.

Points 2 & 3:

One example:
MPC offers LNP porting from 95% of the US and BYOD or softphone for $4.95 for 60 min, or 500 min for $9.95. Incoming calls are free, so if you don't need many US minutes the $4.95 plan would be perfect. They are EXTREMELY reliable and have awesome customer service. Per minute rates are $0.025 after your free mins are used up.

Of course there are many other options for US PSTN connection. So far Voxee sounds cheapest for per-minute to Bangkok, but there may be others I am not familiar with.

You should look into an internet account for the Bangkok person if that would be feasible. If they already have internet then get them set up with FWD.

Edit:
Hey Draco, VERY good post!
We both said kinda the same thing but somehow you beat me me in by a hair
Your post was much better (and longer, wow!) and more informative than mine. . .
Way to go!


VOIPer_53

@adelphia.net

Alfonzo21, you wouldn't be using POTS to talk to your family in S. Korea with FWD--you'd simply use the Internet. Both ends would connect via FWD sans phone lines. If your family there doesn't have access to broadband, you may not be able to take advantage of FWD; quality with dialup would be problematic at best. Make sure the family there have signed up for a FWD account and have a softphone (most are free) or a sip device. Don't know if the Packet 8 device wlll work or not, but they can get an unlocked SIP device to use. FWD doesn't really give you true VOIP--just access to other FWD members, toll-free US numbers, and peering with some commercial VOIP providers (however, that's shrinking since Vonage pulled out of it's peering agreement). If you want true VOIP with international long distance to phone lines, you'll need to signup with a commercial provider and I suspect you'll be in violation of their TOS if you attempted to share such a service.


gnexus

join:2005-06-24

said by VOIPer_53:

Alfonzo21, you wouldn't be using POTS to talk to your family in S. Korea with FWD--you'd simply use the Internet. Both ends would connect via FWD sans phone lines. If your family there doesn't have access to broadband, you may not be able to take advantage of FWD; FWD doesn't really give you true VOIP--just access to other FWD members, toll-free US numbers, and peering with some commercial VOIP providers (however, that's shrinking since Vonage pulled out of it's peering agreement). If you want true VOIP with international long distance to phone lines, you'll need to signup with a commercial provider and I suspect you'll be in violation of their TOS if you attempted to share such a service.
This is a load of crap.

At least use a BBR account before posting your inaccurate text.


VOIPer53

@adelphia.net

Sorry gnexus, but I've used FWD to talk to friends and family who are also FWDers for 4 years and am extremely familiar with it. You cannot call out to the POTS, just US toll-free numbers. FWD doesn't assign DIDs. You can try to sign up with IPKALL to get a Washington state number but don't count on it working consistently. Just sign up at FWD's support boards and read how often calls to IPKALL DIDs don't foward to FWD. As for Vonage pulling out of it's peering arrangment with FWD--it's a fact. Why Vonage did it, I don't know.

As for commercial VOIP providers' TOS, just read the fine print. They aren't going to allow multiple families try to share accounts--they're in the business to make money.



Ludwik
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Poland

said by VOIPer53:

... I've used FWD to talk to friends and family who are also FWDers for 4 years...
FWD is less than 3 years old. It was launched in November 2002.
--
Life in a Jar - The Irena Sendler Project


VOIPer 53

@adelphia.net

Sorry Ludwik, FWD Ver.1 first launched in 1995 (as free PC to phone). It was relaunched in 2002, as end-to-end IP. Check here, if you don't believe me. »Broadband Reports: Interview

Used version 1 as well as the old, free Dialpad. Still use FWD for communication with friends and family who are FWDers.


gnexus

join:2005-06-24

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said by VOIPer 53:

Used version 1 as well as the old, free Dialpad. Still use FWD for communication with friends and family who are FWDers.
Yeah, I was using way back along with Dialpad and Net2Phone. Audio was a bit choppy then, but then again I was using slow DSL. Finally gave up on it back then since I don't use LD much anyway. There wasn't a way to have DID cheaply, which was what I needed, unless you could procure a T1 for other additional uses.

My friend, however, has used it consistently since then to call his family in Europe. He never had complaints once he got cable, before then he was using 56k. Yuck! I tried that a few times. It works but you need a lightweight codec.

Edit:
I'm not sure why you're complaining about latency problem. If you setup your SIP device properly, then after establishing the call, your device should talk to each other directly. If you have latency problem at this point, there is nothing you can do, because it's the latency of the Internet.
Very true. The choice of VoIP provider won't affect that once the call is set up. The only thing it really creates is an echo, which should be able to be overcome via ATA or softphone adjustments.


Ludwik
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Poland

reply to VOIPer 53

said by VOIPer 53:

Sorry Ludwik, FWD Ver.1 first launched in 1995 (as free PC to phone). It was relaunched in 2002, as end-to-end IP. Check here, if you don't believe me. »Broadband Reports: Interview
You are right. I was misled by Jeff Pulver himself (»pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/002633.html).
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Life in a Jar - The Irena Sendler Project


wesm
Premium
join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA

reply to gnexus

said by gnexus:

One example:
MPC offers LNP porting from 95% of the US and BYOD or softphone for $4.95 for 60 min, or 500 min for $9.95. Incoming calls are free, so if you don't need many US minutes the $4.95 plan would be perfect. They are EXTREMELY reliable and have awesome customer service. Per minute rates are $0.025 after your free mins are used up.
Where does myphonecompany advertise these plans? I've been all over their website and it eludes me...
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Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy and have the root password.


g-nexus

@mindspring.com

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