Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE
| Deliberant 1300 Antennaes
I'm about to grab about 20 of these units. I have not selected antennaes for these yet. What should I select, N male or female pigtails? What do most antennaes have? Obviously, for some applications, I will have to purchase seperate connectors but it would be nice to save a buck by buying the most common configuration for most applications.
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John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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| said by Diddy1  :What should I select, N male or female pigtails? What do most antennas have? "Most" antennas have N-female connectors. But the factor that will determine what you are going to need is how you mount the radios. If they are mounted RIGHT NEXT TO the radio you could use the pigtail with a N-male. If you are going to mount the radio some distance away then you will need ANOTHER jumper...in that case you would connect a N-female pigtail to the radio and use a jumper with N-males on both ends.
So...!
Have you considered the integral antennas?
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jdmarti1
Jack
join:2004-06-15
Oilton, OK
| Eje at Wisp-router sells Pac-Wireless 19 and 24 dBi grids with N male or female pigtails. Therefore it would not matter which one you choose, you just need to standardize. By using the integrated 14dBi, or the 19 and 24dBi grids - you have it all covered. |
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Stealthwave
join:2005-07-03
Alvin, TX | Don't forget your lighting protection. A $28.00 polyphaser is a lot cheaper than a radio. I would look at the new 2300 from Deliberant. Its real nice for the few extra bucks. |
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Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE | reply to John Galt
Ok, here is probably a stupid question. I think I may have misunderstood the concept of the integrated antennaes. Can someone explain? Or should post over to Deliberants support site?
Aaron |
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John Galt
Forward, March
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| said by Diddy1 :Ok, here is probably a stupid question. I think I may have misunderstood the concept of the integrated antennaes. Deliberant, among other manufacturer's, produce devices that have an integrated flat panel antenna. This alleviates the need to provide a separate antenna.
It is not suitable of every installation, but it is suitable for the large percentage of installations, in most circumstances.
In the case of Deliberant, what you see on their website is what you get. There is no other device outside of the case. this makes for the least conspicuous installation.
The beamwidth of these antennas is about 30 degrees. In some installations, where this device is used as CPE, this may be too much since it would pick up interference. In these cases an antenna with a more narrow beamwidth would be necessary.
The upside to the 30 degree beamwidth is that it is easy to aim and, with a single device, installations are quick with a good final appearance.
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Stealthwave
join:2005-07-03
Alvin, TX | Deliberant has something new coming on the antenna side so be watching for the change. It will be nice that's all I'm telling. All I can say is they listen to customer's with an open mind. |
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nwn
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Centerville, IN
| reply to jdmarti1
Get the N-Male connector on the radio and N-Female on the antenna. The female will fit through the hole in the bottom of the case and allow you to have the connection inside and not have to do any waterproofing. If you do the connectors the other way, you either have to modify the case or waterproof a connection.
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Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE
| Ok, so my deliberant 1300a, sitting here next to me, has an integrated antenna alread? I thought it was an option. I never really understood it completely as I planned on most installs with an external antenna since I'm doing distant setups, but that would nice for testing purposes 
Aaron |
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA | reply to Diddy1
No Deliberant has an internal and external antenna version. However the only difference is the antenna mounted inside the case. |
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nwn
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Centerville, IN
| reply to Diddy1
The order page on the website is better than it was. You can not easily order N-Male, N-Female or internal antenna.
You can still use an external antenna with your 1300. You need a pigtail. The pigtail connects at the top left of the PCB. Just unplug the internal antenna, plug in the pigtail and hook up you external antenna.
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Scott |
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Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE
| I understood where the external antenna will be hooked up. I just didn't know that the radio had an existing internal antenna as well inside the case. As it turns out, I tested in the basement at low power, and it does communicate with my pc card radio in the back of my pc. Now I can tinker some more, more easily
Thanks for the info. guys. Just goes to show how simple things are often overlooked by newbies.
djhurt1 |
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John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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| said by Diddy1 :I just didn't know that the radio had an existing internal antenna as well inside the case. Just so we are clear here...
It doesn't. The integrated antenna is an option...you must order it that way and it costs $20 extra. As I mentioned before, a small price to pay to have one less thing to install.
"El tiempo es dinero"...time is money.
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Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE | Ok, again. That's why I was confused. It states it as an option(which I didn't select) but I was being told elsewhere that there was an integrated antenna. Ok, thanks for the info on the hardware.
Aaron |
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nwn
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Centerville, IN | If you have a unit and are not sure, look at the cover. If there is a pigtail coming out of a hole in the middle of the metal plate, there is an integrated antenna. No wire, no antenna.
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Scott |
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