senatedon
join:2002-03-18
Mechanicsburg, PA | Karl, it's you with the misinformation
Again...and again, Pennsylvania did NOT ban municipal broadband. Pennsylvania now has in place a right of first refusal (ROFR) plan.
The ROFR works - Philly is an example. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Semantics to make you and your bosses in Harrisburg feel better for selling out to corporate interests. Any muni in PA now has to go to Verizon for approval.
Philly was allowed through because it quickly became a Verizon PR nightmare. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
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right of first refusal? Why the hell does verizon have that right in the first place? So, Philly got the 'exception', but every-other-place in PA got hosed.
What does this mean for other Pennsylvania towns? Well, they're pretty much screwed. They are required to give the local telcos the right of first refusal for municipal high-speed Internet services. Companies that refuse to let the cities go forward with their own internet services are required to provide a similar service within a 14 month window.
Verizon can go to hell before they have ANY rights to stop any competitor, be it city/state/private/public. Guess what verizon, you didn't pay for the telephone lines, the users of the telephone paid for it, but GUARANTEEING you a profit during your Ma Bell years. Now Verizon is just looking to screw everyone, and prevent any competition.
Though personally, I think that having any government agency run anything is a pretty bad idea, it's better than letting verizon steamroll their monopoly engine.
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA | reply to senatedon
Hey I live in PENN, and you can call it what ever, you want, in the end its the same.
They have lobbied her to stop any kind of FIOS so why not wireless also. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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regardless of what the actual bill says or mandates, Karl has the absolutely correct interpretation of the intent, so don't give him no sh1t.
Pretend what you have to pretend to make yourself feel better, but don't try convince people on this forum that Pennsylvania didn't ban municipal broadband. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | reply to Karl Bode
Amen.
ROFR not a ban? ROFL!
calvoiper |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | reply to G_Poobah
G,
where do you keep coming up with this notion that Verizon didn't pay for the lines and that the users did? Users, last time I checked, bought phone service, not stock. |
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senatedon
join:2002-03-18
Mechanicsburg, PA
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Dude:
you are misinformed.
Read the law. PA doesn't ban any municipal broadband. PA has a ROFR for municipal broadband that has fees.
If Smallville or SanFran wants to give away service to its residents, it can, and is not prohibited.
Once the municipality wants to use taxpayer dollars to compete against private business for a market share, it must give the ILEC a ROFR. |
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Karl Bode
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PA doesn't ban any municipal broadband. PA has a ROFR for municipal broadband that has fees.
Your bosses in Harrisburg have pandered to Verizon and installed them as the gatekeeper in a process they have no business being a part of.
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Once the municipality wants to use taxpayer dollars to compete against private business for a market share, it must give the ILEC a ROFR.
Semantics again. Any muni who wants to charge for their service (even if just to cover network costs) has to beg Verizon's permission. Verizon then says "No, we may install service there," and delays the process indefinitely by dicking about in the legal system, showing just enough skin to keep regulators off their tail.
In the meantime the town that wanted to provide service, can't.
It's a ban. It's just more cleverly constructed to avoid backlash. |
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