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s1llym0nk3y

join:2005-08-18
Edison, NJ

does comcast prevent you from operating servers?

does comcast do anything to prevent residential users from running there own servers, like web, ftp, smtp, terminal services (remote desktop), gaming servers, or anything else they may want to run?


ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Grafton, WV

Re: does comcast prevent you from operating server

Not that I have seen. It is in their AUP that you cannot, but it seems that as long as you aren't abusing the connection with what you are running, they have bigger fish to fry.

The only issue I ran into was with my email server, and that was because the reverse look ups other provider's SMTP servers do, my mail was being bounced. I just added Comast's SMTP servers as a smart host and relay everything outbound through them. Incoming work fine for me with no modifications.

I run various things on many different ports on my connection and had no issues.
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s1llym0nk3y

join:2005-08-18
Edison, NJ

ok, good. thanks for the info.


Phil75070

join:2005-08-17
Mckinney, TX

reply to s1llym0nk3y

Re: does comcast prevent you from operating servers?

Doesn't the limit on upload speed effectively do that?


EnasYorl
Thieves World

join:2001-12-02
West

said by Phil75070:

Doesn't the limit on upload speed effectively do that?
That would depend on the application.

It does prevent large gaming servers. Most games burn about 64 to 128kbps per client typically.

s1llym0nk3y

join:2005-08-18
Edison, NJ

reply to Phil75070

Re: does comcast prevent you from operating server

depends on what your doing and why... in my case is would be primarily for various remote access applications where bandwidth can be low... and experimental stuff for personal use only like web apps and the like... I'm not talking about actually hosting any services for any volume of people to use... just me.

micro420

join:2005-04-14

reply to s1llym0nk3y
I have been using my connection as a web server, ftp server, remote desktop connection, and VPN. Nothing has happened so far.



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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ

reply to s1llym0nk3y
Although it technically is against the AUP, the guideline that's most frequently tossed around in here is that if you keep traffic low, they won't care.

Do they actually block servers? No. They block a number of ports ( »Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »What ports does Comcast block? ), but nothing general like the services you mentioned.
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said by s1llym0nk3y:

does comcast do anything to prevent residential users from running there own servers, like web, ftp, smtp, terminal services (remote desktop), gaming servers, or anything else they may want to run?
As I read the words in the AUP/TOS, it seems that you are prohibited from providing service to people not on your premises LAN. So a mail server acting as an MX for your domain, and not used by people off of your premises doesn't seem to be prohibited. Game, P2P, FTP, and HTTP might be considered prohibited, but the consensus seems to be that low-bandwidth servers are not bothered.
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thisismyname1

join:2004-07-26
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reply to EnasYorl

said by EnasYorl:

said by Phil75070:

Doesn't the limit on upload speed effectively do that?
That would depend on the application.

It does prevent large gaming servers. Most games burn about 64 to 128kbps per client typically.
Exactly why I moved to the Gold Tier. Having 8Mbps of download is great and dandy but I really don't download to much. I need the upload more then download. I was thinking recently of maybe getting VOIP since the phone bill is somewhere in $75-100 range a month. However no way that is happening with such little upload. If I had VOIP running while using my connectionto run a online gaming server I would pretty much see lag all over the place along with crappy reception on the telephone line.

I think a good ratio for download to upload is 5:1 or 7:1. Not something like the current of 12:1 on Gold and 17:1 on Silver.
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99664227
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join:2002-11-21
USA

Comcast won't be increasing the upload speed anytime soon. If you need a decent upload you can always go with a T1 or fractional T1. They have dropped in price over the years. Or you can get DSL with a load balancing router.
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tekausa
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join:2003-10-29
Flint, MI

reply to s1llym0nk3y

complained about poor service -Comcast retaliated

I complained that for months my VOIP was unusable due to packet loss on the Comcast network. I called to Corporate to escalate the issue. This pissed off the local person at Comcast so they found out that I have a web and email server (extremely low volume) and made that an excuse to say I have to stop them. I told them I would be leaving Comcast but will need 30 days to migrate my services. The person who called me from the network abuse group could not say ok, but he didn't say that 30 days would NOT be approved either. A few minutes later I go a follow up call from the bitch that manages the local group asking if I heard from them. This selective enforcement of the AUP cost them a customer.

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Re: complained about poor service -Comcast retalia

said by tekausa:

I complained that for months my VOIP was unusable due to packet loss on the Comcast network. I called to Corporate to escalate the issue. This pissed off the local person at Comcast so they found out that I have a web and email server (extremely low volume) and made that an excuse to say I have to stop them. I told them I would be leaving Comcast but will need 30 days to migrate my services. The person who called me from the network abuse group could not say ok, but he didn't say that 30 days would NOT be approved either. A few minutes later I go a follow up call from the bitch that manages the local group asking if I heard from them. This selective enforcement of the AUP cost them a customer.
If it wasn't for the web server, you could have used the wording of their AUP/TOS to rationalize the mail server; as long as the server was only for use by persons on the Comcast account for that premises.

In any case, you probably will find it easier to get away with running servers with one of the DSL providers, if you have any in your area.

Interesting; Comcast actually employs talking dogs?
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MrBradTX

join:2001-05-23
Carrollton, TX

reply to s1llym0nk3y

Re: does comcast prevent you from operating server

Darn Comcast to Heck for holding customers to their Terms of Service. Those meanies.

WinWord10

join:2002-02-10
East Brunswick, NJ

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reply to s1llym0nk3y

Re: does comcast prevent you from operating servers?

Actually, they do enforce the web server ban. I was running a low-volume web and ftp server for my personal site last year and Comcast's network abuse unit called me and threatened to terminate my service and take "legal action" if I didn't shut down the server immediately. I had been running the server for over six months before they caught me.

Be careful.

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