said by Roop :

why are they traffic shaping if you can only download/upload 60-100gigs REGARDLESS of what it is?

said by Jason Levine :

I'm not sure if they're doing this or not, but it also sounds like they have the capability to slow down your connection if you're trying to access certain websites.

said by hayabusa3303 :

Sounds stupid here correct me if im wrong but it sounds like the government has there hands in this some how.

said by John_W :

Talk about being anti-competitive.

it charges people $10 more each month if they want to make sure a third-party Internet telephone service, from a service provider such as Vonage or Primus, works properly over Shaw's high-speed service. "Without this service customers may encounter quality of service issues with their voice over Internet service," the company states on its website. As one industry source told me, "It's a sneaky way of saying if you don't get this your service will suck." Suddenly, high-speed customers with "regular" service find themselves as second-class cybercitizens. To accomplish this, Shaw uses technology from Merrimack, N.H.-based Ellacoya Networks Inc., among a handful of companies — including Cisco-owned P-Cube Inc. of Sunnyvale, Calif., and Waterloo-based Sandvine Inc. — that have perfected the art of what's known as "deep packet inspection." Basically, the technology can analyze all traffic on a high-speed network, identify what it is, and then "mark" it — that is, assign it a level of priority chosen by the network operator. It means Shaw knows which subscriber on its network is using a Primus VoIP service, or Kazaa for downloading music, or Bit Torrent for downloading movies. In fact, it inspects even deeper. Not only does the technology know you're using Kazaa, for example, but it knows the specific songs you have chosen to download, which itself has privacy implications depending on how a network operator uses it.

said by Drex_CS :

what's anti=competitive? the guy above you posted a "hypathetical" situation in which a cable company "could" slow down connection to a website... To bad that it's not possible to do.

said by Roop :

i'm on rogers and this really sucks guys. i wish dsl was better but i'm 6km out and sattlelite is no faster than dsl here.

about 6 months ago i notice on DC++ my uploads would start at like 10kbyte but would drop to 1kbyte after a minute. i thought it was just me but at the same time, a bunch of other rogers users noticed this.

downloading is not affected in this traffic shaping. you can always download at max speed. of course, every DC hub is going to ban you for not uploading. there are now many DC hubs that don't allow rogers IPs.

same applies to torrents. download as much as you want, but uploads suck. this is bad news for the p2p community. limewire and other kazaa like programs are affected too.

do you know what the kicker is on this? Rogers has caps. 60gb a month of combined traffic for normal customers and 100gb for the high tier.

why are they traffic shaping if you can only download/upload 60-100gigs REGARDLESS of what it is?

said by John Galt :

And inside, hundreds of Grandma-types monitoring the billions of web sites making sure that they instantly throttle you when you visit a competitor's web site.



Ahh...yeah.