John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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Re: "Unlimited" is a BEAUTIFUL Word
said by DaDogs  :Cable doesn't have the kind of distance limitation that DSL has but being rural isn't always helpful. Just to clarify...cable has distance limitations also. It is related to the number of cascaded amplifiers in the chain.
There are technical means such as microwave to new headends to overcome this limitation, but the point is that it is not possible to have an "infinite" number of amps in a cascade.
Well, you can...it just won't work, that's all.
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | reply to KAD Imaging
Oh...you're one of those who chooses an isp based on what "extras" they offer, sort of like AOL style. I tend to go more for the connection. I just subscribe to my own choice of newsgroup access. |
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KAD Imaging
Just Shoot It
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join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by entropy1 :Oh...you're one of those who chooses an isp based on what "extras" they offer, sort of like AOL style. I tend to go more for the connection. I just subscribe to my own choice of newsgroup access. Uh, no. Newsgroup access is part of the package. BS is fully unlimited whereas Crapcast limits you to 2GB and CAPS throughput to like 3KB or something ludicrously small.
Your welcome to pay all the extra money you want for newsgroup access.
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | I've experienced no "capping" of throughput whatsoever. Also, I've found that the access I pay for is far superior to any free access I've gotten with any isp over the years...unlimited or not...be it dsl or cable. |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
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dude you did nothing to defend your point and I'm not going to belabour this.... since you think/admit "it's a scam, but it's not our fault... cuz it's human nature and cuz it's what people/customers want to hear.." whatever sure...;);) whatever you say;);) |
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DaDogs
Semper Vigilantis
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join:2004-02-28
Deltaville, VA
| reply to John Galt
said by John Galt :Well, you can...it just won't work, that's all. Hey John;
What is the limitation on cascaded amplifiers in a cable chain? How far can one go on one amp (generally) and how many amps are allowed in a chain?
Thanks
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Industry_Pro
@rr.com
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Hi AtomicZero,
Not trying to defend a point. Just stating the facts as I see them, and trying to give readers the benefit of almost 11 years of ISP ownership.
I, as well as most independents, are being edged out of the game with every passing day. So I feel comfortable critizing the majors. But I also think some of the readers of this board could better speak to some of the issues if they had some first hand experience at, ISP marketing or network engineering or sales or ISP services and technology.
So yeah, you are correct - what you and I wish and what is are two different things that are inconsistent. I guess that's marketing in a nutshell (thank you Oreilly).
Not really trying to make just one point, trying to help to the degree I can do so.
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itguy35
@mo.chart
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$64 = DSL wins? for NO TV SERVICE? You can take that same $68 cable package and add voip for $25/month and have everything a home user needs. Your $64 DSL option doesn't include any tv content at all - that math is about as fuzzy as a TELCO's. And as far as cable being "inferior to satellite" here in MO, if a person were to so much as as sneeze on their dish or the sky gets cloudy, you might as well plan on having a fuzzy SATV picture. I have many friends with the "more cost effective" SATV and i will take my cable any day of the week. Especially since i have 5 meg Charter pipeline (consistent at 4.7mb) and 7 TVs in the house. Oh BTW, Charter's customer service runs circles around SBC in this area. I've used everything from Wireless, to DSL, and now cable and I'm staying with cable. |
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KAD Imaging
Just Shoot It
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join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by itguy35 :
$64 = DSL wins? for NO TV SERVICE? You can take that same $68 cable package and add voip for $25/month and have everything a home user needs. Your $64 DSL option doesn't include any tv content at all - that math is about as fuzzy as a TELCO's. And as far as cable being "inferior to satellite" here in MO, if a person were to so much as as sneeze on their dish or the sky gets cloudy, you might as well plan on having a fuzzy SATV picture. I have many friends with the "more cost effective" SATV and i will take my cable any day of the week. Especially since i have 5 meg Charter pipeline (consistent at 4.7mb) and 7 TVs in the house. Oh BTW, Charter's customer service runs circles around SBC in this area. I've used everything from Wireless, to DSL, and now cable and I'm staying with cable.
I'll just quote a previous post when I listed a my cable and dsl setups..
said by Me :
BS DSL Ultra (1.5)
Complete Choice = $30
Emergency LD Plan = $1.99
Extreme DSL = $35
TOTAL = $67 (+ taxes/fees = $75)
CRAPCAST Cable
Standard Package = $49 (81 ch Analog)
Digital Classic = $56 (127+ ch)
TOTAL = $49
(DVR = $10/mo)
$75 + $49 = $124
Current:
BS DSL Extreme (3.0)
Complete Choice = $30
Emergency LD Plan = $1.99
Extreme DSL = $45
TOTAL = $77 (+ taxes/fees = $85)
Direct TV
TOTAL Choice Plus (150+ ch Digital) = $45.99
BS Answers Disount = -$4.99
TOTAL = $41.99
(DVR = $4.99/mo)
$85 + $42 = $127
So for $3 more per month I doubled my DSL speed and am getting 30 more DIGITAL channels plus there's no rental fee for the a box. CRAPCAST sucks "a big fat donkey d***!!!"
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seen it
@sonnet.com
| reply to Industry_Pro
Industry_pro is on the money. People buy the lie. They want the lie. If you won't lie, they will buy from someone who will. It's the irrational side of human behavior. Eventually the marketplace will lose interest and the lie can be quietly withdrawn. That is what is happening in this case.
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printscreen
join:2003-11-01
Juana Diaz, PR
 ·Choice Cable TV
·Coqui/PRTC
| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :No, you are just forced to pay for that POTS line from the xLEC that you do not want. If you are not lucky enough to have someone like Covad or Speakeasy and the like to provide you naked DSL. What if my POTS line has already been there for ages and I still want/need that line? I don't have a POTS line because I have DSL. I have DSL because I already have a POTS line. In my case, the cost of the phone service doesn't come into play for what I pay for DSL because I would have the line anyway without DSL.
It's amazing how many people assume that everybody with DSL is forced to pay for a POTS line. Some are, many aren't. |
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