  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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2 edits | Hidden cost to those who don't want music
This is an extra cost to those who don't want to download music. Of course, with this particular ISP, they are upfront about it and you would join them and pay the fee knowing what you are getting.
But what if all ISP's decide to do this? Then all the ISP's users who don't download music will be subsidizing those who do. Because we know that the major ISP's aren't going to reduce profits. It may not be a big increase( a buck or two), but the ISPs will pass on the cost.
The deal is good for the RIAA, they could get money from every broadband user, whether they listen to their music or not if this concept spreads.
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | you sound just like a young person bitching about having to pay for health insurance he, or she never uses. I am sure the ISP's will have with, or without plans. |
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| reply to TKJunkMail But you already subsidize download hogs with the price of your broadband. My mom probably uses less than 200MB per month, and most of that are the automatic Windows updates. Yet she pays the full $45.95 per month for cable access. That offsets some neighbor kid down the street who leeches from Usenetserver all night and day.
Similarly, I subsidize sports enthusiasts when I pay my cable bill. Taxes work the same way. I'm paying for all sorts of projects I don't care about but are deemed to be for the greater good.
If a buck or two per month from every broadband subscriber is really going to appease the record industry to fianlly let us do what we want with our music, I'd seriously have to consider it. However, I don't beleive for a second that they're going to let us freely swap un-DRMified mp3's.
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| reply to Transmaster Health insurance used to save one's life or maintain one's living condition is a little different then music, moron.
I also buy life insurance and I will only be using that once and know that up front. That doesnt mean I want to subsidize free Hot dogs and cotton candy for those that enjoy those things. |
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| reply to TKJunkMail The actual problem I see in this is how are they going to divvy up the royalties? How will they know which artists get a cut and how much of that cut will they get? This seems to me just a way for the record labels to extort more profits without actually giving back to their artist pool. |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH
| reply to Transmaster said by Transmaster :you sound just like a young person bitching about having to pay for health insurance he, or she never uses. I am sure the ISP's will have with, or without plans. That's an asinine comparison. Whether or not you use insurance does not negate the validity of carrying insurance. For people who don't share music online, there is no benefit as they cannot potentially benefit from it.
You can get hurt at any moment and thank God you have insurance. What unforeseen catastrophe could arise when you suddenly thank your lucky stars that you have P2P? -- Wiki Wiki CAUTION: Zealous Gentoo Fanboy Just because you work in IT doesn't mean you aren't computer illiterate. |
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  BonezX Basement Dweller Premium join:2004-04-13 Canada 1 edit | reply to SRFireside log which songs are downloaded |
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  SRFireside
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| Aside from packet sniffing how will they do that? It's not like there is one P2P program that's going to be used and it can keep track. Basically anything from Sony that passes through that ISP is supposed to be covered. I seriously doubt they will put that much time and effort into tracking everything running through there. |
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| According to their website that is exactly what they plan to do."Q: WHAT TECHNOLOGY DOES PLAYLOUDER MSP USE?
* The technology behind the PLMSP service is provided by US-based technology company, Audible Magic. * PLMSP employs specially configured routers and firewall technology using 'deep packet searches' to identify and re-route all file sharing traffic. This process ensures that file sharing can occur only between subscribers within the PLMSP "walled garden". * Audio-fingerprinting technology is used within the PLMSP network to ensure that all licensed downloads within the network are tracked enabling accurate accounting back to music rights holders". |
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | reply to yock I am talking about the bitching not the difference between insurance and P2P. |
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