AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu
| Campus wont let us have routers My campus has resnet and Cisco Clean Access Agent in order to login to the connection if you are on windows. They dont let us run routers because they say is screws the network up (lies?) so how can i split my connection, without them getting on me about routers. I want to get one of those next generation consoles like xbox360 and nintendo revolution and want ability to do some gaming. | |
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UVaStudent
@Virginia.EDU | Re: Campus wont let us have routers Routers can indeed cause serious network problems, depending upon how they're configured. | |
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Nate425
Premium
join:2005-02-03
Charlottesville, VA
clubs: | Get a switch? | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | Re: Campus wont let us have routers What kind of switch? Sorry i dont know this kinda stuff, | |
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jer2eydevil8
join:2005-07-07
Cincinnati, OH
1 edit | In my building some idiot hooked up a router incorrectly and it acted a dhcp server to anyone on the same switch. Basically this meant everyone on our floor couldn't access the internet for a good 3 hours. Fortunatly they weren't smart enough to actually password protect the device so while it took 3 hours for campus IT to shut off the jack it only took me 3 minutes to get the MAC and IP for router to the right people.
Anyways... I should probably get on subject.. so then any switch/hub will work but you probably want to buy at least a 10/100 switch which if you get it off newegg.com is currently only $25 minus a $10 rebate makes it $15 plus shipping.
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33124005
 or you could just run to best buy and spend $30 - $50 on one if you hate online shopping. | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | But then how do i deal with cisco clean access agent, or will consoles just log in and use my computer's mac addys? | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | I dont know because ive never had an internet enabled console before (my last was a nintendo 64 back in 99 yes laugh at me now)but plan to get one of the next gens | |
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plattypus1
join:2005-04-08
Riverside, CA
 ·Charter Pipeline
| Switches won't actually work in most places, it sounds like they make you log your MAC to your student username or room number or some such device to prevent you from using more than one box.
You CAN in fact utilize a router on the network. It is technically possible, though if it's against your AUP you're on your own. MAKE DEAD CERTAIN that you disable the local DHCP server on the router. Then, connect it to your dorm network and log in normally, it should see the MAC of the router, register it as a single computer, and you're good.
I also had a situation when I lived in the dorms with an idiot with a Linksys router who didn't disable the DHCP server. Didn't knock anyone off the network, but the broadcast traffic pushed half the hall over their 5GB quota. So your resnet guys aren't lying to you. The average person with a router will screw up their network. | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | Well they say they let you have 2 computers registered. But i know mac and linux ppl dont have to have cisco clean access agent. | |
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AlkalineArmy
Premium
join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| Another easy alternative is to change the MAC address of the consoles to MAC address of your computer. This way, you just plug the ethernet into whatever device you want to use.
Alternatively, you could buy a cheap switch, then hook up your PC with one MAC and give both the consoles the same MAC and then just hook whichever one you plan on using online. This is assuming that they let you register two MACs. | |
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| plattypus1
join:2005-04-08
Riverside, CA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Campus wont let us have routers A lot of times these registration things require a web browser. I know UCR's resnet specifically says that they don't support PS/2's, even if you don't have a computer, because they can't log on to the web registration interface. (And because they're too lazy to actually manually register the cards.)
Having a router gets around this problem, as you only need one computer behind the router with a web browser to register the MAC. | |
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| devicenull
Premium
join:2002-12-01
Clifton, NJ
| That was a nice thing to do, destroy someones router, even though they are allowed on the network. Can I destroy your computer now because it's causing tcp/ip traffic?
Makes me happy that I'm planning on getting a box to run m0n0wall with a switch behind it | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | Well at my school, we just need to reg our mac adress (i belive we can do 2 computers) and then if u have windows use cisco clean access agent, So consoles have a thing to let u change it's mac address? | |
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AlkalineArmy
Premium
join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| Re: Campus wont let us have routers said by AllSeeingEye :
So consoles have a thing to let u change it's mac address?
Yes, you can change the MAC address of the Xbox through the network configuration tool and you can change the MAC of the PS2 with the network setup disc. | |
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Skyrunner8
join:2002-01-10
Berkeley, CA | could you not do Internet Connection Sharing through windows? Just buy a cheap NIC and your in buisness. I don't know how well this would work but it might.
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td4guy
join:2005-09-25
Studio City, CA
| At my school with Cisco Clean Access, you need to register your game console's MAC address so that you can play online. So just get your router's MAC address and register it with your network admins. Tell 'em that it's your Xbox's MAC address. That'll bypass the Clean Access Agent. | |
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AllSeeingEye
@uncc.edu | Re: Campus wont let us have routers So this will work with others too like Gamecube and PS2 as well as ps3/xbox2/revolution ? | |
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TxAdmin
@comcast.net
| Internet Connection Sharing is probably your cheapest solution. However; you have to have the serving computer on all of the time. Some linksys and D-Link routers have the ability to use a specified MAC adress. This is very helpful when you have to go through a MAC adress filter. However, even if you don't have one that can change the MAC adress; you can just give them the MAC adress of your router as if it was another one of your PC's. Your network administrator is right, it can effect some functionality of the system; however, (if they know their stuff) it should only limit your access to thier domain.
If you want to set up a router. Go to the command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" write down all of the information because you will need to manually enter it using your routers setup (http, telnet, ect.). Then either change the MAC adress of your router, or register the MAC adress with your admin; this should give you access to the internet with as many computers as you would like. | |
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TXAdmin
@comcast.net | A switch won't cause any problems; but it won't let "anyone" access the internet. You will still have to have every device MAC adress registered. If you get a router set up right; it will fix all of your problems. | |
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Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
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I just logged into to it with the default password and did a bad firmware flash to brick it and prevent it from giving out ips again.
You couldn't have just turned off DHCP, huh? Or maybe just configured it correctly?
Sheesh! | |
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maxkool
join:2005-05-19
Rockville, MD
| I don't know if you said if you have laptop or a desktop. But if you have a desktop running XP. get another NIC and run a crossover cable to from you consol to you PC. Then use XPs inernet Connection Sharing. The machine will act as a "router" more or less. | |
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FordMxRacer
join:2006-01-20
San Marcos, TX | Has anyone found the actual solution to fixing this because my roomate and I cant figure out how to get our 360 working online.
Ryan | |
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aviper9
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Salisbury, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Campus wont let us have routers your best bet is to try to get in contact with the network and/or server groups at your university. Someone there runs the Cisco clean-access agent management system. Hopefully they can register additional mac addresses for you. Get the mac address of your xbox 360 and try to give it to the people that deal with the registration. | |
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