hulksterhogan
@192.251.x.x | reply to AJ023
Re: [ fiber tech] 30/5 is $54.95!
I live in Southeast PA and have a FiOS install scheduled for next week. When I put my phone # to see the different packages I see 179-199 for the 30/5. Hopefully its just a matter of time before this $54.99 price goes nationwide. |
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loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
| reply to AJ023
It will be good if this will become nationwide and by the time that FIOS is available in my area I would deffinetly get this price, but I live in a Comcrap area so I hope this becomes nationwide  |
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wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD | reply to AJ023
Verizon, if you're listening: Right now, I'm intending to get the 5/2 plan. But at this price, I'd get 30/5. (15/2 doesn't interest me much; I don't think I'd get anything out of the additional download, but I can always use more upload.) |
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LonghornXP
join:2005-08-27
Largo, FL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to AJ023
Do indeed expect this to be a nationwide offering in about a month or so. Right now they are waiting until enough users in this market upgrade to the service so they can make sure that no bugs pop up with all that extra bandwidth being used. They need to fully make sure that the current routers, internal hardware and such can handle mass usage of those speeds.
Just consider the Long Island market a test market for now. Also they do indeed want people signing up for a year at 55-60/month because once they offer their Video TV bundles and pricing they know a customer who has internet with them will be 80% more likely to cut off their existing TV provider. This is all about increasing their odds of getting video customers. |
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Jobronie
join:2004-07-23
Harrington Park, NJ
| I have a call out to the head of Fios Media Relations (I was one of the first Fios installs in NJ, so he gave me his office and cell numbers when he asked me to talk to the press as a charter Fios customer) regarding VZ's decision to not offer this rate outside of LI..... |
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SuperG03
Premium
join:2004-01-26
00000
| Jobronie,
Look forward to hearing what you find out...
Just a side note. If VZ did start offering this deal, I think they would be banking on the fact that not all users would use 30 MBits. As of right now, with BPON, VZ only has 622 MBits down split among a max of 32 houses. Unless my math is wrong, that is only about 19 MBits per house, and that is IF all conditions a perfect, which I am guessing they won't always be. I do seriously doubt this will be a problem, since I don't think too many users will be maxing out the 30 at all times (especially concurrently). The u/l is a little better, as it is suppose to be 155 split 32 ways. And that yields right at about 5 MBits to all 32 concurrently. And from what most people here say, they are interested in the extra 3 MBits up, more than the extra 15 MBits down in the 30/5 package vs the 15/2 package. This ofcourse does not take into account how much bandwidth the vz backend has, and if it can indeed support all that bandwidth. If VZ does have the backend to support this, they may wait till GPON is rolled out before offering 30/5 at such a low price to everyone in the country with FIOS.
Just some thoughts.
SuperG03 |
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BD11goal
join:2004-03-13
Huntington Station, NY
| reply to AJ023
waittt.... i thought their system couldnt handle the speed if like alot of people got the 30/5 package, i mean as in everyone geting it... has something changed? or is verizon now doing what cablevision does(oversell their nodes atm's fiber cards watever). |
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broadband_seeker
@203.81.x.x
| reply to AJ023
okay guys i have a question.i apolozige on being off topic! i humbly wanted to know something..how does this whole bandwidth allocation thing work..the backend..gpon bpon...within the U.S what are the prices of bandwidth that so much bandwidth is available and such great speeds are available and what are the factors that determine this..and is there a big difference between international bandwidth and U.S internal bandwidth..do the U.S telco companies even buy international bandwidth or do they just sell it and other countries call itinternational bandwidth and and buy it..so basically if fios has 30/5 does and 622 bpon downstream and 155 bpon upstream is divided..is that only from the user to the backend and from their verizons backbone or thats internationally as well..and if that bandwidth is just local then how come even from international sources p2p and browsing on fios is so fast?i would also like to know how come US telcos have so much bandwidth and why cant a third world country im visiting not have that?...an isp here in pakistan is offereing cable that fluctuates ..the upload can be anywhere from 0kbits to 512 and the download can be from worse then dialup to 786..aside from this cable company..here in karachi other telcos are offering 1gb capped connections of 256k and 512k dsl..what is preventing them from offering higher speeds.where is the bottleneck? international bandwidth? why is it so high..
»www.ptcl.com.pk
this recently privatized previously government operated nation telco provides international bandwidth to telcos at i think 2k or 3k dollars per E1 line!!...where do they buy this from...sorry for the long post..thanks for the help!
ps: there are many other companies here in pakistan esp in karachi(where i am ..mega big city..port) /they are charging ridiuclosly high prices for supposed cir connections and others..check this out..this is the isp im using right now..was shocked to see this when i got back here..
»www.go4b.net
look at their prices.crazy!..so just wanted to get some answers! |
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wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
| said by broadband_seeker :
within the U.S what are the prices of bandwidth that so much bandwidth is available and such great speeds are available and what are the factors that determine this This is not an easy question, and perhaps not answerable at all. At Verizon's level, they presumably pay nothing for bandwidth -- except the costs of maintaining their equipment, which are considerable. Instead, they have peering arrangements with other ISPs, where they agree to carry the other ISP's traffic, if the other ISP carries theirs; or else they're paid by the other ISPs. (They're the phone company, after all.) This will be even more true if they manage to acquire MCI. |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28 | reply to AJ023
Now that we have a nice screen shot and quite a few confirmed sightings of the 30/5 price reduction on the Vz website....All we need now is a confirmed purchase of service at this price to clinch the deal. |
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eowen
Premium
join:2004-05-12
Temecula, CA
| reply to AJ023
i really have no problems with 15/2. I am comfortable with it... and i doubt ill pay the extra 10 for 20-30 upgrade. I will just wait a while before i upgrade then when that time comes it feels good.  but for now 15/2 is an A for me. even for the next 2yrs |
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nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY | reply to AJ023
except youre getting 3 more mbits/sec for about $10. What a steal ! |
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hgratt
join:2003-12-09
Plano, TX
| reply to AJ023
Can the 30mb/s even be effectively used in the typical home network setup?
I have a home network with one wired desktop and several wireless laptops. Placement of the laptops only allow them to communicate at around 8-15 mb/s when used individually and significantly less as more of them come online. This is with a wireless G setup, but I suspect that the newer pre-n gear would still have these issues.
So it looks like, for wireless network users, the 30mb/s speeds are not much of a benefit. Have I missed something?
Harvey |
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wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
| said by hgratt  :So it looks like, for wireless network users, the 30mb/s speeds are not much of a benefit. Have I missed something? You missed the upstream, which IMHO is a much bigger deal (few servers are going to give you 30 Mbs anyway). But of course, you want a wired connection to get the maximum benefit. |
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hgratt
join:2003-12-09
Plano, TX
| said by wmcbrine :said by hgratt :So it looks like, for wireless network users, the 30mb/s speeds are not much of a benefit. Have I missed something? You missed the upstream, which IMHO is a much bigger deal (few servers are going to give you 30 Mbs anyway). But of course, you want a wired connection to get the maximum benefit. You are correct, of course, about the upstream speed being the most useful aspect of the plan. I was aware of that (the main reason I went for the 15/2 plan) but just wanted to comment on the real viability of a 30mb/s download speed.
It will be interesting to see if FIOS provides a stimulation for the wireless vendors to provide a significantly faster product.
Thanks,
Harvey |
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Jobronie
join:2004-07-23
Harrington Park, NJ
| reply to SuperG03
said by SuperG03 :Jobronie, Look forward to hearing what you find out... Got a call back this AM. He had absolutely no idea what I was talking about, and said that was an issue for the marketing dept. I thanked him and then played nice guy and told him that I just wanted to give him a heads up that word was spreading thru the internet that you could buy the 30/5 package 40-50 miles away on LI for less than a third of what we would have to pay in north Jersey and that both areas are serviced by OOL, and that it was just a matter of time before some customer dropped dime and called one of those Five on Your Side-type reporters.
He said he'd forward it to one of the upper guys in mkgt. and have them get back to me to see what's going on in NJ....
In other word: I found out NOTHING |
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amdmaxx
join:2005-08-05
Fair Lawn, NJ | I would definitely sign up for 30/5 for $55... Its showing up prohibitively expensive $179 still for NJ.. |
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ablack6596
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY
| reply to AJ023
I can get in in Westchester County NY. I'm calling tomorrow, it better not be for new customers only. Anyways, my connection is running like a pos right now, no images load, and hardly any websites. Same thing was happening at my school today.  |
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ablack6596
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY | reply to AJ023
I ordered it. Speeds are supposed to change in 24 hours. |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Jeffrey
The deal is *technically* *cough* for new customers only, but if you call them (as I did) and you explain to the nice people that, yes, you have it already, but there were no plans available when I got it, etc... they *will* let you order it. I know because I did it today. I upgraded from month to month 15/2 to a 1 year rate on the 30/5. I understand that it *should* be active when I get home later tonight.
You can call the Verizon Fiber solutions center at 1-888-553-1555
Once you get past the initial recording, just say "operator" and then answer "yes"... you'll be on with a rep, explain the situation and they will put you on with someone in the order center. Be nice.
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