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chickenhq
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join:2001-11-28
here | WoW yahoo went bonkers when that soldiers family wanted his email password,finally gave in after much press.
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Toadman
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join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH | I was thinking the exact same thing. The soldiers family that wanted the password for his email had to fight tooth-to-nail to get it, but China asks for the IP address, no prob. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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Who cares about the family of a dead soldier? The Chinese are our friends. (insert sarcasm here)
Face it, Yahoo rolled over and did all kinds of tricks for the Chinese.
And to the poster above, so if the Chinese came to me with that threat, I would have gone public with it.
Time to put all the Chinese IPs on a blacklist and see how they like that.  |
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AuraReturn
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join:2003-08-18
San Francisco, CA
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said by Toadman  :I was thinking the exact same thing. The soldiers family that wanted the password for his email had to fight tooth-to-nail to get it, but China asks for the IP address, no prob. Several members of a family vs 1 billion people and more nukes to blow up the world several times... hm... tough choice.;)
For those who want to change China, you shouldn't care. Not everything has to be done our way. Our way isn't the best way. Maybe China's way is the better way, in the long run. Who knows?
I don't think China gives a jack about how the U.S. govern so why should we care about how China should govern? |
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zemus
join:2001-01-13
Brooklyn, NY
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The family had no rights to the pwd. God forbid if the soldier was alive , the last thing he would want is all his emails read to his family. If the family wanted the pwd, they can get a court order, in which case I would find it hard to believe Yahoo would not supply the information. This is to protect you and me folks.. What if someone pretended to be your relative and said you died in IRAQ and asked for your pwd? should Yahoo just give it out? Even after supplying proof of death and family relations, how can Yahoo be sure you are not the 'evil' twin brother (stretching really far I know). But you see Yahoo has a policy to protect your privacy (as flimsy as it is). So yeah court order for pwd is reasonable.
If 99 request were real and 1 fake I rather have all 100 request for pwd denied than to have that 1 fake request approved.
In the end Yahoo did take it a little too far. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | So are you saying this reporter had no right to privacy? |
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA
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said by moonpuppy :Who cares about the family of a dead soldier? The Chinese are our friends. (insert sarcasm here) Face it, Yahoo rolled over and did all kinds of tricks for the Chinese. Well said, how cares about dead soldier, its not like they where important, now chinese GOV with all that money, well that is another story.
Shame on Yahoo, but then again, they are an American Company. |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
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Well, the Chinese reporter broke a Chinese law. And the dead soldier didn't break any laws.
If someone broke a Federal or State Law in the US, and the IP information was requested from Yahoo with a subponea, then you can bet that Yahoo would give it to the US or State government. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| said by smcallah :Well, the Chinese reporter broke a Chinese law. And the dead soldier didn't break any laws. If someone broke a Federal or State Law in the US, and the IP information was requested from Yahoo with a subponea, then you can bet that Yahoo would give it to the US or State government. But where were the servers? If they were in the US then Chinese law doesn't apply. |
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AuraReturn
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join:2003-08-18
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| said by moonpuppy :said by smcallah :Well, the Chinese reporter broke a Chinese law. And the dead soldier didn't break any laws. If someone broke a Federal or State Law in the US, and the IP information was requested from Yahoo with a subponea, then you can bet that Yahoo would give it to the US or State government. But where were the servers? If they were in the US then Chinese law doesn't apply. Yahoo does business in China. They had to agree with certain terms. |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
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said by moonpuppy :But where were the servers? If they were in the US then Chinese law doesn't apply. Not that I support Chinese law, I don't live in China. But it doesn't matter where the servers were if the reporter is a Chinese citizen and committed the "crime" in China, that Chinese law most certainly does apply, assuming that China chooses to apply its laws to its citizens on its soil. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| It is interesting that when a ton of SPAM comes from Chinese servers, it is o.k.and nothing can be done about it but when the Chinese government is criticized, they spare no expense in finding the one reporter.  |
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