The Boomer
@pacbell.n | reply to wirelesswoes
Re: Did I miss something?
Yes, my iPod is no longer recognized. So I can't update imported or purchased music. |
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cointreauman
join:2005-09-26
UK
|  reply to Greg_Z
All
I downloaded ITunes 5 and on loading it onto my PC found a number of serious problems:
1. Connection to the Internet immediately faile
2. The ITunes 5 would not load and came up with a multitude of error reports
3. My pen drive and CD Rom burner were no longer accesible.
4. The Windows System became very unstable.
I tried the usaual of uninstalling the software, that did not work and reinstallation made things worse.
I decided to use system restore to take me back to v4.9 - no longer an option as it would seem that ITunes 5 had taken my system files to the cleaners.
A visit to the variouds IPOD and ITunes forums showed a slow but steady flow of complaints and grumbles.
I set about deleteing every single Apple type programme from my system and even contacted my ISP to fid out if anyone had reported a similar problem. My ISP tested my connection and stated that I was connected!!!
So I reinstalled on what was an Apple Clean machine and lo - sam problem.
I removed everything again and this time tried connecting to the internet - no problem and the whole home network was alive. Well that was on the day the new ITunes 5 was delivered.
I investigated the system and found this nasty piece of work called Bonjour Services and through that the realisation that this client was the probable cause of the problems. It was throwing random DNS calls at the router form within the PC to Router connection so that everything beyond the router was fin BUT the router homee side was being effectively subject to a Denialk of Service attach from this piece of TOXICWARE that Apple decided to bundle with ITunes and QT7.
So despite all that has been said Apple are to blame for this mess.
In passing - not all routers were having this problem nd a simple enough solution was there too - to go into the control panel and change the auto allocating of DNS details to Manual SElect. this worked as Bonjour was being ignored form then on. However, a lot of ISPs change their DNS servers and so you would need to go in and reiput the new numbers....
I hung on and waited for the patch - this duly arrived as (%.1 or 5.01) and so I eagerly installed it looking forward to getting back to enjoying my library of music.
Reult EXACTLY the same problems occurred. I could have spat nails and went through all the different variations but all that was being reported was that the installation failed and clicking on the ITunes icon brought the router crashing to the ground.
I flew into a rage and denounced Apple as the master conspirators - making me fall in love with my now-cippled IPOD Photo 60Gb and the convenience of porting music files around the house throug the network.....
I trawled through the internet forums and came across a short nite from a kind fellow traveler who experienced the same problem - He confirmed no longer was Bonjour Sevices loaded but that he discovered that there was a problem now between ITunes and QT7!!! Because Bonjour had been ripped away its BORG technology menat that the collective was damaged. There was an answer and that was to install QT V7.0.2 in its standalone format!
I did this form a strange link to the apple site - SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS - THE FU&*ING THING WAS INSTALLED AND WORKING PROPERLY.
So just download the standalone over the ITUNES 5.0.1 installation it worked. xP + SP2 did not quibble.
I linked my IPOD and there it appeared in the smoother looking ITUNES interface.
All has been great since 1am yesterday!!!
Now there is another iissue
IN MUSIC STORE - WHERE has the shopping cart gone - I bought some music last night to celebrate and expected to review my purchases - no Shopping Trolley just a direct purchase and l and behold I bought a track I had already purchased before.
So my only revenge on Jobs and Apple -
I cancelled a purchase of 5 G5 systems today for my office. F&^k you Apple - I will also find a different Media Player - there will be better out there and I dont need your useless crap anymore. You see I worked out the time I spent sorting your SHI* out and applied my own rates for consultancy to the time spent. Pisses all over the cost of the IPOD and accessories I have bought. So I will EBAY my beloved IPOD and plough the money into something else that is not so up your Apple arses. It would have been cheaper to have thrown the whole kit and caboodle into the river.
Cointreauman
"If someone offers you an Apple - tell them to put it where the sun don't shine" |
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probsAbound
@mc.videotr
| reply to hdknight
Yah again another dumbass pipes up without first checking Apple's own site - god I can't stand jackasses like this. Apple has not only admitted that there are some major issues in iTune 5 for both Apple and PC users, but has 1 - released a temorary patch, and 2 - is working on another. The problems are not just limited to PC users either.
Therefore - based on their own statements, the problem is actually some poor programming/bug testing issues in the release itself.
And it's doubtful that you've installed it on that many systems - sounds more like some self serving BS to me to "fake" prove a pointless point. |
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Austinite100s Mom
@mc.videotr
| reply to Austinite100
You're a moron. If you took the time to actually browse Apple's site you would see that not only are hundreds of people with both Apples and PCs having problems currently with iTunes, but Apple has 1 - released a fix because of some major bugs in the iTunes software, and 2 - are currently working on another because an enormous number of bugs still exist. Being a fanboy doesn't help anybody so keep your idiocy quiet and go back to playing the thousands of games, using the multitude of software, and... oh wait, that's right you can't, you're using a Mac. |
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x-iTunes user
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Pictor Guy
Re: No, you missed nothing
I did pay for iTunes songs -- and plenty of them. No, I hadn't yet put then onto a player because I don't have one yet. I am somewhat computer savvy--when I was asked to upgrade as I had done before I did not see anticipate the ensuing crap-storm and I am just waiting for Apple to develop a fix that lasts long enough for me to save these files to a disc or another format if this is even still possible. |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| reply to mick mick
said by mick mick :
Well for those who are interested, i did have my music backed on a Firewire drive, but that decided to go down too.
So, the reason i plugged my ipod into my PC was in an attempt to backup it up onto yet another drive, using the third party software.This ,by the way won't let me upload my paid-for music, and i can't open Ipod in Explorer, presuambly because it was set to auto-update and not "use as a hard-drive".
I'm not sure what third party software you are using? Is it Jhymn? The inability to open in Explorer is normal, but there is software out there that will let you use it like another hard drive (for the Apple and Windows).
Again, paid for music should be backed up without any trouble with the built in burn disc function.
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Computer keyboards are very sensitive. You do not need to apply a lot of pressure. Banging the keys only serves to wear out your keyboard and you. |
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mick mick
@aol.com
| reply to Pictor Guy
Well for those who are interested, i did have my music backed on a Firewire drive, but that decided to go down too.
So, the reason i plugged my ipod into my PC was in an attempt to backup it up onto yet another drive, using the third party software.This ,by the way won't let me upload my paid-for music, and i can't open Ipod in Explorer, presuambly because it was set to auto-update and not "use as a hard-drive".
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| reply to mick mick
said by mick mick :
except you can't upload the tracks from you're ipod officially, and yes i know there are a zillion unofficial programs to let you do this, but what do you do when you can't open Itunes, or uninstall it, but it still pops up whenever you plug you're ipod in, and then tries to synchronize.... i.e because itunes thinks it has no music in it, it tries to wipe all your music from your ipod.
Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally.
Presumably you would fix the iTunes issue before doing some less than intelligent thing like plug in the iPod to sync with a broken application. Or use another computer. iTunes 5.0.1 is out to fix some issues but there are also a lot of people who haven't run into what you describe. Another way to copy the music without a third party application in windows is to simply open up the iPod in explorer and drag out the files from your music folder. You won't get the meta data but you'll have the music. If you move to another PeeCee then all you need to do is register that machine to play the ITMS bought songs. AND... as with any data there is no excuse to a lack of a good backup plan.
If it happened to me I would be upset too but at some point I have to ask what could I do to safeguard my investment. |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| reply to mick mick
said by mick mick :
except you can't upload the tracks from you're ipod officially, and yes i know there are a zillion unofficial programs to let you do this, but what do you do when you can't open Itunes, or uninstall it, but it still pops up whenever you plug you're ipod in, and then tries to synchronize.... i.e because itunes thinks it has no music in it, it tries to wipe all your music from your ipod.
Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally.
iTunes isn't the only music software that handles it like this. Every DRM enabled player has some restrictions on it, no need to single iTunes out. If your only backup is what is on your iPod then losing all of your purchased music is inevitable. You need to practice what Apple has been preaching with iTunes. Backup, backup, backup. It takes you all of 2 minutes to burn a cd or dvd with all your store bought music on it.
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Computer keyboards are very sensitive. You do not need to apply a lot of pressure. Banging the keys only serves to wear out your keyboard and you. |
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mick mick
@adsl.metronet
| reply to Pictor Guy
except you can't upload the tracks from you're ipod officially, and yes i know there are a zillion unofficial programs to let you do this, but what do you do when you can't open Itunes, or uninstall it, but it still pops up whenever you plug you're ipod in, and then tries to synchronize.... i.e because itunes thinks it has no music in it, it tries to wipe all your music from your ipod.
Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally. |
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| reply to Pagoda
said by Pagoda  :If I had purchased music through iTunes I would REALLY have reason to be pissed off. You would also have a copy of the music on your iPod or other mp3 player. |
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Pagoda
join:2005-09-21
| reply to bollocks697
Since installing iTunes, my computer has been completely hosed up. The system crashes about one minute after I log into windows and reboots automatically. I can't uninstall iTunes from safe mode because it says the MSIINSTALLER is not working. What the hell am I supposed to do?! Well, I know there are things I can do, yet this is unacceptable. If I had purchased music through iTunes I would REALLY have reason to be pissed off. |
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BOLLOCKS697
@aol.com
| reply to Austinite100
Re: Did I miss something?
Fantastic. so your Apple Itunes runs fine on your Apple Mac.
I'm happy for u. I run Mac and PC because i'm intelligent enough to see the advantages in both; i can tell you that the problems with Itunes/Windows are horrendous and are totaly down to badle Beta-tested software cauisng huge probelms for hundres of people.
Apple .. no warnings, no apologies, NO HELP |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN | reply to bollocks697
Don't try to put words in my mouth. I'm just stating what seems to be the norm. There are exceptions. |
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bollocks697
@aol.com
|  reply to Tsume
Oh how nice to be smug.yes i'm a total f*****g moron who knows nothing about computers and so it's obviously it's all my fault, because your system is fine.
have you looked at the Apple forums? There are hundreds of people out there extremely pissed that Apple realesed this piece of shit , badly Beta-tested version that is un-uninstallable, un-rollbackable (good word) and hijacks music that is paid for and unplayable except on Itunes.Plus totally screws up your PC. |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
 ·Comcast
| reply to Austinite100
said by Austinite100 :
A couple of stupid users having issues 'cause they can't install something or 'cause they already had a mess on their systems is not Apple's fault. Maybe spyware messes up the installation, you can't blame Apple for that. All because Windows should be called PoS OS instead. I haven't had a single issue with iTunes ever. In fact, because of that and many other things I now use a Mac.
Has nothing to do with Windows being a "PoS OS", or about Spyware. Issues with installing iTunes is being found out on clean systems, and also has nothing to do with 'cause they can't install something' or 'cause they alreayd had a mess on their systems'.
Please move along Anon..
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One man's customer loyalty is another man's misguided arrogance. |
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Austinite100
@rr.com
| reply to Mtav80
A couple of stupid users having issues 'cause they can't install something or 'cause they already had a mess on their systems is not Apple's fault. Maybe spyware messes up the installation, you can't blame Apple for that. All because Windows should be called PoS OS instead. I haven't had a single issue with iTunes ever. In fact, because of that and many other things I now use a Mac. |
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Ant718
join:2002-01-30
Bronx, NY | reply to wirelesswoes
No issues here!
XP Home / SP2
100% updated system! |
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hdknight
join:2004-01-05
Inwood, WV | reply to wirelesswoes
The problem isn't Apple or iTunes. The problem is Windows sucks. In any case iTunes worked fine on 2 Macs and the 7 XP systems I installed it on. again, its a Win XP and user problem. Bunch of whiners.... |
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dromaine
join:2001-04-20
Mesa, AZ | reply to wirelesswoes
Using Itunes 5.0 on XP with SP2, Works great. |
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