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boblandy
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ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update

definitions dated 9/13/2005


WLiley
Woodman
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Grand Blanc, MI
clubs:
Anti-spyware? or anti-virus?

Mine shows AV definitions of 9/13.
But AS definitions of 9/9

boblandy
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as stated, Anti-spyware update...


WLiley
Woodman
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clubs:

Okay, now how to explain why I'm not getting the update?
Have checked for update several times today. Twice since your post.

boblandy
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reply to boblandy
thing is, to the best of my knowledge, ZA Anti-spyware defs are dated according to when they are downloaded by the user, not according to when they are released

Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta1 does the same thing with their defs, but at least they assign a version number to keep it more identifiable

i posted the defs as soon as i saw them. if they were around since 9/9, who knows

or maybe you downloaded the 9/6/2005 defs three days after they became available

i think they could use a better system
--
look out kid they keep it all hid

boblandy
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reply to boblandy
yet another variable to consider here is that many ZAP users are experiencing problems getting updates... to the point that the newest version release 6.0.667.000 includes, among other improvements,

Fixed - Anti-Spyware update sometimes "not responding"

out of curiosity, what version are you running
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look out kid they keep it all hid


TK421
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Canada

reply to boblandy

Checking for Update
Strange. I have 6.0.667.000 but received no update tonight. The pattern thus far was new weekly definitions each Friday...

boblandy
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again, quite possible i just today grabbed defs from 9/9, and they appear to me as 9/13

why don't you guys consider posting them when you get them

that's what i've been trying to do
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look out kid they keep it all hid


TK421
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You always beat me to it Bob.

I get most security (and other) updates after reading about them first at BBR.

boblandy
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without some means of identifying the updates other than the date (which appears on each user's system as the time they are downloaded), this type of uncertainty will always occur

if ZA is going to insist on this oddball method of assigning ever-changing dates to each new def release, then at least they could issue a version number to go with the update, like Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta1 does, to distinguish one update from another
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look out kid they keep it all hid


TK421
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I completely agree - ZoneLabs should add a definition number to make it clear what version is current. Perhaps they want to encourage users to enable auto-update?

The problem is they are using only the date to show definitions version while most other AV/AS programs have version numbers. That can cause confusion posting about updates for those, like me, who prefer to update manually. Wouldn't it be nice if ZA was included in the Security Updates sticky? I doubt that will happen though.

This is my only gripe with ZA AntiSpyware since it really does seem to be very good protection. If the regular Friday update remains predictable at least I'll know when to expect it (also Thursday update for MSAS-Beta).

boblandy
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said by TK421 See Profile :

Wouldn't it be nice if ZA was included in the Security Updates sticky? I doubt that will happen though
i was already told not to post these updates there, and not even in the security forum... and not to expect to see them in the updates forum "for a long while" because it's "not a software most people can or do rely on"
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look out kid they keep it all hid


TK421
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Well none of the other security suites get in either... but don't try to convince me ZAP is inferior in any way to many of the programs that are allowed. Personally, I believe ZAP antispyware is at the very least as good (better) than MSAS (although I use both).

boblandy
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said by TK421 See Profile :

but don't try to convince me ZAP is inferior in any way to many of the programs that are allowed
you're speaking in general, to others, i suspect

because i'm not trying to convince you of that
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look out kid they keep it all hid


TK421
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Of course.

boblandy
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said by TK421 See Profile :

If the regular Friday update remains predictable
did you get an update
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look out kid they keep it all hid


WLiley
Woodman
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clubs:

I wanted to chime in again.
My wife's pc recieved the update just as Bob reported, and WHEN reported. Yet no matter what I tried (and there seems to be little to try) - I could not get the update.

So, I created a case w/ Zone Labs - just as the ZL User Forum suggests. What I got back from them was the most disappointing email yet. It did not even acknowledge that specific problem. Instead it only gave detailed instructions on how to uninstall & reinstall. Sort of a "no matter what your problem is, do this..."
(Which I can do with my eyes closed.)

It did not even say that "this will work" though I knew it would. So I uninstalled & reinstalled. Rebooted and got the AS update.

I can't remember for sure, but way way back when I used Norton I think that was "the solution" to not getting their updates too. That was one of many reasons I dumped them when I did.

Having had many inside contacts w/ ZL & Checkpoint over the years, I can tell ya that there's alot of changes going on there. Not all appear to be good changes.
--
Team Z Member"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." Hunter S. Thompson

boblandy
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glad to see you post back

mind sharing with us what version you run

and

do you have auto updating enabled

btw, i immediately saw the similarity between the zonelabs "cure" and what symantec recommends... and would have smiled at same were it not so frustrating
--
look out kid they keep it all hid


WLiley
Woodman
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Grand Blanc, MI
clubs:
Version 6.0.667.000

Auto update enabled.

Have noticed that if I force an update check,
the AV reports that specific date/time of said check.
The AS reports back a date/time of actual signature update.

Seems a bit odd.


TK421
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Canada

reply to boblandy
said by boblandy See Profile :

said by TK421 See Profile :

If the regular Friday update remains predictable
did you get an update
Nope nothing... so much for that.
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