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r81984
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Kind of Pathetic

»www.starstream.net/cable-theft.asp

Types of Theft: Active Theft
WiFi Theft – WiFi theft occurs when someone installs a wireless network in a residence or business location and intentionally enables others to receive broadband service for free over their wireless network.

Wow! It is now stealing to hookup an unsecured wifi router to your paid for internet sevice.


GeekNJ
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It says:
WiFi Theft – WiFi theft occurs when someone installs a wireless network in a residence or business location and intentionally enables others to receive broadband service for free over their wireless network.

I think if you are knowingly providing an open access point for the purposes of intentionally allowing others to connect, that's the theft angle. An example would be knowingly doing so in an apt complex allowing others to knowingly connect and possibly even help pay for the bill.
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claydean

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Agreed, this usually falls under the redistribution of services that very few isps allow


alg
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Look at it this way. The cable cos themselves came out and said that theft occurs only when intentionally redistributing the service. Therefore connecting to a network that someone didn't secure (unknowingly) is not illegal. At least according the link.


r81984
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I fail to see how that is theft. If you bought the bandwidth why can't you share it. It is yours you own it if you use it or not, so why not use all of it by sharing.


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I fail to see how that is theft. If you bought the bandwidth why can't you share it. It is yours you own it if you use it or not, so why not use all of it by sharing.
Because you did not buy the bandwidth, you are buying access to that bandwidth. But to be honest I agree with your position and offered to share my wireless with my neighbors.


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said by r81984 See Profile :

I fail to see how that is theft. If you bought the bandwidth why can't you share it. It is yours you own it if you use it or not, so why not use all of it by sharing.
I can see it from both sides of the coin. One from the ISP side, they sell you access with the full knowledge that you will not use all of the available bandwidth. The other side of the coin I understand wanting to be generous and knowingly share your service with others. The sharing of service with others however may deprive the isp from being able to sell service to the other individuals who are utilizing your connection instead. It also will definitely hold you responsible for any illegal activity that your "guests" happen to do with your connection.


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I fail to see how that is theft. If you bought the bandwidth why can't you share it. It is yours you own it if you use it or not, so why not use all of it by sharing.
You can't really morally believe that can you? If you bought a CD or a computer software program, is it legal to share it? What about cable TV and splitting the connection and sharing that with your neighbors. There's nothing preventing you from doing it, but you know it's not legal.

Pricing for consumer broadband is based on what an average user will consume and the ability to sell to multiple consumers. If everyone in your neighborhood started sharing your one connection, assuming it was capable of supporting those users, the cable companies would be losing revenue. In the end it might cost them the same amount to support all those users, but the revenue is obviously less.
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CableTool
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Its the actual technology that makes the blurry lines of whats right and wrong hard to follow.

If you pay for cable is it legal to run a line to your neighbors unit?
Why not? You pay for all those channels each month, you cant watch them ALL? Why not let your neighbor use the service you are paying for as well?

Its the same thing with internet.
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I fail to see how that is theft. If you bought the bandwidth why can't you share it. It is yours you own it if you use it or not, so why not use all of it by sharing.
You can't honestly believe that for $35-$60/ month that you now own unlimited bandwidth. Why do you think big businesses pay close to $2000/ month or more for T3? Not because they just have an extra $1950 to blow every month and don't know what to do with it. It's because that's the price for unlimited bandwidth. If you want to share an internet connection, pay for T3 at your house and then you'll have the right to share it with whoever you want. For $35-60/ month keep it to yourself.

Next time you go to a restaurant and can't finish what you paid for on your plate, ask them to take off some money on the bill. If you explain to them that you didn't eat it, you should have no problem getting some of your money back. Or better yet, share it with the people at the next table and ask them to pay some of your bill.
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