distgre123
join:2005-08-12 | Good/Cheap Montreal ISP for DSL
Ok, Im fed up with VIF.
Can anyone suggest a ISP thats cheap (29.99 a month) and has UNLIMITED bandwidth without packet filtering? |
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Solar1um
Unlimited
Premium
join:2005-01-10
Lévis - QC
| Rocler.com ... just port 25 blocked ... in and out ... but great bandwitch ... bell and videotron peering ...
»www.megaquebec.net/ - no info about port ... but i think no blocking port ... and 29.90 ...
3web ... bad ...
tecksavvy ... but just 100 GO
Oricom 34.90 ... no limit ... no port filtering ...
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Vidéotron - Download @ 600 kB/s - Upload @ 100 kB/s |
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Reso208
join:2005-10-11
Ottawa, ON | reply to distgre123
Distributel is offering xDSL for $19.95 for 1st 3 months. No usage, no port blocks (other than anti-spam).
»www.distributel.net/ |
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Solar1um
Unlimited
Premium
join:2005-01-10
Lévis - QC | reply to distgre123
and 39.99 after if you don't have their long distance 
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3Web @ 24,95 $ - Download @ 300 kB/s - Upload @ 80 kB/s |
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
|  reply to distgre123
Hi,
Di> Can anyone suggest a ISP that's cheap (29.99 a
Di> month) and has UNLIMITED bandwidth without
Di> packet filtering?
This can be tougher to answer than it sounds: the
typical ISP Web site feels like it's designed in a
way to keep us from moving on. Perhaps the intent
is that, once an eventual customer has monopolized
enough time and skills to gather information he is
really asking for, euh... the corresponding value
of that data could be amplified after he worked so
hard to get it. The next thing we know, customers
who fell for it might very well become emotionally
involved with the ISP they chose because a natural
tendency is to protect what we work for (who likes
to invest efforts in vain, after all?)... This is
a personal opinion only but it turns out one needs
to browse/phone for a whole day (and perhaps a lot
more) simply to investigate the ISPs listed below:
English
French
Now, if one wishes to get appreciations from other
customers i bet it's a matter of weeks! In my own
case, there's another variable to consider: there
must be no insistance from the ISP about having my
personal credit-card/banking information released,
while the mainstream tendency is exactly opposite.
I didn't find many i'll consider on a trial basis,
only a few can agree over payment done using bank-
certified counter-checks or postal money orders if
sent in advance for no more than three months in a
row. Representative reactions ranged from empathy
to being called a "paranoid" man, i suspect asking
for assistance in configuring a MoDem/Router would
get me close to zero candidatures so, euh... i'll
just have to drop such requirement. At the end of
the day, five ISPs seemed to be worth a follow-up:
C.A.M., one month money order
ExecuLink, two months money order
ISP Canada, two months money order
TekSavvy/1stAccess, three months money order
ZiD, call
If one will agree on paying from six months to one
year in advance, these ISP might also be worth it:
3web/CyberSurf (IStop), 1 year
Distributel, 6 months
Inter.Net, 1 year
Magma/Primus, call
I'm not positive about some of these but it's like
i must count them in the credit-card/pre-autorized
payment category (checking them all is tiresome!):
AEI
Altima
B2B2C/Arobas
Look
Oricom
RadioActif
Rocler
SecureNet
SogeTel*
Sympatico/Bell*
Telus/GlobeTrotter
I'm afraid some errors may have slipped thru but i
did verify that those with a star (*) besides only
accept credit-card/pre-autorized payment; i can't
pretend that i could check them all fully, though.
In any case, what i'm trying to illustrate here is
some questions sound simpler than they really are!
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mbourd25
join:2005-09-14
Hammond, ON
| reply to distgre123
I have Magma in Ottawa right now and I'm looking also for a cheaper DSL provider. I saw somewhere that it's better to get a DSL provider that's connected to the Toronto, Ottawa and Quebec internet exchange, so that way you get lower pings when trying to connect to local sites.
Should this be important or any DSL provider is good?
Thanks. |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| reply to Solar1um
Hi Oxyg3n,
Not sure if you understand how our bandwidth is calculated.
We don't do a ticker system. We actually do an averaged calculation against the Mbps....
So, if you average 1mbps on day one, .5 Mbps on day 2, .01 day 3, 3Mbps day 4, etc.... We'd take every day through the month, add them up and divide by the number of days. In other words, you could download on a ticker level much more than the GB allowed due to the averaging.
To give you an idea we currently have around 8,000 clients. Of them, here's how many went over 100GB for the month:
- September: 0
- August: 2
- July: 0
- June: 1
- May: 0
- April: 0
- March: 1
.... I had to role back to July 2004 to get the fifth (5) person that went over 100GB.
.... You almost have to intentionally beat up your connection hard every day to crack the Cap.
...my two cents!
Rocky
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pstewart
Premium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
| reply to mbourd25
mbourd25...
That's a complicated question but here's what I can tell you from experience. Simply, the more peering an ISP has the better.
There's exceptions in the sense that an ISP can be sending traffic across a peering exchange such as Torix or Ottix but their return traffic is coming in from the Internet itself. When that happens, there's not really much benefit and unfortunately this happens sometimes and isn't always within the ISP's control itself. When the peering is bi-directional, it basically eliminates almost all latency because you're pretty much "directly connected" to the other provider.
It varies from ISP to ISP, but typically only about 5-10% of an ISP's traffic goes across peering exchanges that they are directly connected to.
Some ISP's don't advertise their peering and bandwidth... and it's no big secret in my opinion. The funniest things I see is providers who advertise "connected via multiple OC-12 fiber connections" etc. etc..... there are *some* providers where that would be considered true, but a majority may have a physical OC-12 connection (622Mb/s over ATM typically) but only be using 100Mb/s of that connection. It's a lot of marketing to be honest.... the IP engineers behind the scenes know the truth about their networks, but they are not the people who you generally talk to and they sure as heck don't do the marketing..hehee....
Hope this helps...
Paul |
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fromage
join:2003-03-31 | reply to distgre123
www.electronicbox.net looks promising. |
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