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Julio
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wtf?

why the hell should they get revenue from iPod sales? just goes to show u how greedy the RIAA is.
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Seandhi
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Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
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Julio
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
if they didn't put any money into researching and developing the iPod, why should they get a share of revenue?
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said by Julio See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
if they didn't put any money into researching and developing the iPod, why should they get a share of revenue?
Hey, I didn't say I agree with it... That's just the logic they are using.
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john262

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reply to Seandhi
So what? It's greed pure and simple. If they want unauthorized P2P sharing to increase a million fold, then raise their prices and that will surely happen.


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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
The same can be said about CD players, tape decks, albums, and every other form of media digital or analog that can be used to store and distribute music.

I have never heard such an absurd argument, but then again it is the RIAA and it would not surprise me to learn that is exactly what they are thinking.


radmish
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reply to Julio
I think the guy is just an idiot an for him itunes music store = ipod.
Either way greedy bastards.


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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
And if there wasn't an internet, there wouldn't be an iTunes Store, so let's up the price another quarter since the RIAA missed that boat.


Seandhi
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said by sporkme See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
And if there wasn't an internet, there wouldn't be an iTunes Store, so let's up the price another quarter since the RIAA missed that boat.
Come on, we all know that porn made the internet popular... not music!
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said by Julio See Profile :

why the hell should they get revenue from iPod sales? just goes to show u how greedy the RIAA is.
Exactly!!!


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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
Wrong. What makes the iPod popular is the design. Online, legal music distrbution would not be nearly as popular without the iPod/iTunes providing a comfortable and easy to use interface.

If people just wanted songs cheap, they could go anywhere to get them and use any mp3 player to hear them. They use Apple's products and portal for the "user experience."

The RIAA is sorely misunderstanding their role in this whole deal. They wouldn't have any (appreciatable) online market income if it wasn't for Apple.
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reply to Julio
This is amusing to me,I hope they(RIAA-MPAA) keep on shooting themselves in the foot,instead of developing a business model that promotes their product they further alienate and bite the hand that feeds them.

I look forward to the day that the whole industry collapses and artists and Indie labels reap the profits that are due to them with their own distribution system
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sorry double post

IOddity

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Wait, first he says they're not greedy, then he says they just want more money. Wtf.....


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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
By that matter the government should get profit sharing from all car manufacturers, because without the roads the government sets up, cars wouldn't sell. And ISPs should get money from ebay/amazon/newegg/etc because if it wasn't for them providing internet access, none of those sites could make money. Also ups/fedex/usps should also get kickbacks from any business that relys on them for shipping. The list goes on forever. The same logic will also always apply in reverse. So Apple should see more profit from the music sales because the RIAA wouldn't sell as much music if it wasn't for itunes and the ipod. This type of justification is pointless because in the end we would have to build a complex system to attempt to figure out how much money each business ends up earning because of a related business and all the money will probably just end up with the government, because the government is what allows our ways of free commerce to exist.


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exactly..
They say "we are not greedy" then in the next sentence demand your first born.. Complete bullshit
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reply to Seandhi
The payback and share they get via iPods is that they get to sell more of their product. They are owed nothing more.

This is like saying Ron Popeil should get a share of each TV sold because he has his commercials on TV. No, duh, the medium is the reason YOU exist.

Music has existed without the RIAA. The RIAA would not exist without consumer music devices.

Hubris, folks.


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said by insomniac84 :

By that matter the government should get profit sharing from all car manufacturers, because without the roads the government sets up, cars wouldn't sell.
They do, it's called sales taxes, excise taxes, auto registration, gasoline tax...
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csnewbie

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reply to Julio
so the RIAA is greedy and stupid.. what's new?

Lepriapus

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reply to Seandhi
Based on this logic, they will also want a cut of Windows, Mac, Linux, and any other OS revenue, because without these OS, the music would not be downloadable.
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