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tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

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Re: NAV 2006 no longer supports WinMe & 98 users

said by sivran See Profile :

said by antdude See Profile :

said by DSL_Steve See Profile :

I guess it was just a matter of time...

»www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/
True. If one buys 2006 products (e.g., store CD versions) and try to install it, he/she gets 2005 version. So, he/she not completely out of the woods -- just won't get the latest one.
In other words they won't be as well protected. :/
quote:
I you are still running any Windows 98 version and you are visiting this security mailing list, there is something wrong with that picture. You do realize how insecure 98's security model is ? Some might argue one doesn't even exist.
I say bah. Common sense will keep one safe on 98 as well as any other OS. A 98 user that is reading this forum or any security mailing list is likely to be quite secure, moreso than say, Gramma with her brand new Dell running XP, who doesn't read any security bulletins and doesn't understand windows update.

I agree. I have kids who use a couple of old laptops that are running 98se. Running NAV 03 on both. Cheap? How about smart. Why is it cheap to keep a older car if there's nothing wrong with it? While your out making payments and having to build up to handle your software needs just to maintain current performance, I'll be banking my cash. I do have 2 XP machines but I after running NIS/Spyware, I dumped it off and put ZA security suite back on, using it's antivirus engine. No bugs yet so it must be doing something right. And I didn't have trash my machine to get it that way.

Anonynona

join:2003-02-11
Lawrenceville, GA

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said by sivran See Profile :

not this quote:
I you are still running any Windows 98 version and you are visiting this security mailing list, there is something wrong with that picture. You do realize how insecure 98's security model is ? Some might argue one doesn't even exist.
I say bah. Common sense will keep one safe on 98 as well as any other OS. A 98 user that is reading this forum or any security mailing list is likely to be quite secure, moreso than say, Gramma with her brand new Dell running XP, who doesn't read any security bulletins and doesn't understand windows update.
Not so...unless they still run C/PM, or Commodore64's et al. lol Otherwise, Win98 can't honestly be thought of as a secure system, Win98SE did improve upon that somewhat, but really...that kind of "common sense" goes hand in hand with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mindset. We would still be in caves if nobody wanted improvements and all the gripes about the newer opsyses still won't make the older, lousier versions any better at all.

And Gramma with her brand new Dell, etc...she's more secure than anybody, cause she doesn't, can't and won't use "that thing" for much of anything, much less the Internet, email, et al...why should she waste the $$ when she can write letters and the phone works just dandy!


PetePuma
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join:2002-06-13
Arlington, VA

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said by sivran See Profile :

I say bah. Common sense will keep one safe on 98 as well as any other OS. A 98 user that is reading this forum or any security mailing list is likely to be quite secure, moreso than say, Gramma with her brand new Dell running XP, who doesn't read any security bulletins and doesn't understand windows update.
Common sense doesn't fix bugs. No more updates to 98 are getting posted, so if you are still using 98, I'd say Grandma running XP is better off.


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said by antdude See Profile :

said by DSL_Steve See Profile :

I guess it was just a matter of time...

»www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/
True. If one buys 2006 products (e.g., store CD versions) and try to install it, he/she gets 2005 version. So, he/she not completely out of the woods -- just won't get the latest one.
In other words they won't be as well protected. :/
quote:
I you are still running any Windows 98 version and you are visiting this security mailing list, there is something wrong with that picture. You do realize how insecure 98's security model is ? Some might argue one doesn't even exist.
I say bah. Common sense will keep one safe on 98 as well as any other OS. A 98 user that is reading this forum or any security mailing list is likely to be quite secure, moreso than say, Gramma with her brand new Dell running XP, who doesn't read any security bulletins and doesn't understand windows update.

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said by DSL_Steve See Profile :

I guess it was just a matter of time...

»www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/
True. If one buys 2006 products (e.g., store CD versions) and try to install it, he/she gets 2005 version. So, he/she not completely out of the woods -- just won't get the latest one.
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