Storm72
join:2003-07-03
Bourbonnais, IL
clubs: | reply to Roop
Re: Who Cares
And here I thought the CBC staff was locked out. Silly me, I guess the sheep need to be fed their state and Liberal Party approved propaganda somehow. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to Azio
said by Azio :
... The UN can't run anything without turning it into a disaster.
Give us one example that is not military or Iraqi in nature. Sudan?
Unicef?
UN HQ personnel management?
Bosnia? (Oh, sorry, that WAS military--at least it became so by the time Clinton had to bail out the UN, though it started as "aid".)
BTW, the Internet began as a military communications protocol for command and control messages. So wouldn't that disqualify it from the list of "non-military" things you think the UN might be capable of managing without FUBARing?
calvoiper
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to PDXPLT
said by PDXPLT  :Hmmm... So the ITU's 170-year track record of developing telecom standards is a "disaster"? Who do you think is responsible for the fact that you can pick up just about any phone in the world, punch in a few numbers, and reach just about any other phone? You should try to learn at least a little about the issue your talking about, before commenting on it. ... I'd think the ITU did a non-cruddy job if I could just "punch in a few numbers". Instead, I have to carry a long list of "country codes", a separate list of "international dial out codes" and various notes about when to pause, when to speed things up by hitting "#", etc.
Aside from problems involving the UN's tremendous desire to control something they could turn into a cash cow to fund corruption now that "oil for food" is past, I don't want to have to remember that to reach websites in part of the former Yugoslavia I have to type "gttp://" because folks in that region are offended that "http" used to stand for "Hail To Tito's Papa" or some other such "politically correct" cr@p that the UN so excels at.
(Also, for future clarity, you might explore the difference between "your" and "you're".)
calvoiper
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ricep5
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join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL | reply to mgbaker
I can reach websites in Uzbekistan today w/o the ITU being involved, so what value would they bring now? |
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theeinstein
Premium
join:2003-07-31
Fernandina Beach, FL | reply to stufried
very true I would hate it also. But I do very much agree with ICANN and the Govt's position on the issue.. |
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stufried
Premium
join:2003-10-13
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I'd hate to see two internets, but there will be so many gateways between the two that everyone will still get the information. It will just give us one more hack to work on. Moreover, all the major providers will probably feed their sites to both networks.
It will, however, give cybersquatters the opportunity of a lifetime. |
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theeinstein
Premium
join:2003-07-31
Fernandina Beach, FL
| reply to Roop
What freaking planet are you from.. Rogers as your provider I am going to assume Canaduh ?
I am a typical American. We have freedoms that men and women have earned! We stand for what we believe and don't ask other countries what they think or feel before we do something. Get used to it. By the way if the internet stopped at the US boarders The content would still be plentiful so don't kid yourself! |
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Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
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said by theeinstein :If they don't like our position they don't have to participate in the internet! I think a technical term for this would be "we have them by the Balls"!! =) you're a typical american. how much fun will the internet be when it stop at the us boarders?
your government has you by the balls and they have blinded you to that truth. as long as your goverment controls all media, there is only one truth, theirs.
twat. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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said by TKJunkMail :And it takes them years to forge an agreement on anything. Yes, the telephones work, but they have had 50 years to get it right. That organization moves too slow to manage something like the ever changing internet. Actually, under current rules, it takes as little as 6 months to finish a standard. The ITU-T director has said recently he's gotten comments from people in the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force), that they happen too fast. I know folks here will be appalled, but alot of IETF standard depend on ITU documents (the horror! The sky is falling! the sky is falling!). They'd probably also wouldn't believe that more Americans work on ITU committees than any other country. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to mgbaker
What you forget is the ITU predates the UN by a couple of decades. It set the standards before the UN started to muck things up. |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN | reply to imrf
If they had 50 years of the US doing jack shit, do you think that Hussein and his govt wouldn't be making weapons? |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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said by Tsume : while they're developing cruise missiles and other weapons. hmm.. I though this ill conceived war proved that they weren't making weapons of mass destruction?  |
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theeinstein
Premium
join:2003-07-31
Fernandina Beach, FL | reply to cao1964
With that said is it possible the next time you visit those "other places" that you stay there?
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA
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said by TKJunkMail :said by theeinstein : The UN can't run anything without turning it into a disaster. ICANN already has international membership and doesn't need UN involvement or interference. Global government is a bad idea whose time should never come. Ha ha, I am from the states and I don't think the UN is useless, its not perfect but I would actually not mind if the UN shared some of the power, you must be one of those fanitic american. Get a life, its not only not perfect here, its not that incredible either and yes I have lived and visited other places. |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
·Embarq
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Yes, the way you'd prefer is to take 50 years deciding whether Iraq is a threat, while they're developing cruise missiles and other weapons. Then by the time that the 50 years is over and you're about to give your long, winded, boring, and mostly off-topic speech, Iraq will simply launch a missile in your face.
Sometimes time is of the essence. Some people can't understand that.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
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It's not about the Iraq war...I just don't understand when we as a nation started to mistake fast decisions for good ones? Sound decision-making takes time and thought. There are no shortcuts.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | reply to theeinstein
If you are not WITH us your are AGAINST us. |
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justncredible
@rr.com
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yes learn about the real issue,,, and that would be the pissant euro trash country's wanting to control information. The last thing these governments want is a informed public. You think is the only country trying to block information,,,umm hell no. If just a few of the french could read and understand what we in this country have, they would revolt. Keep the people ignorant, that is the only hope for socialist regimes. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | reply to kapil
You find some way to work the Iraq conflict into every single one of your posts, don't you? Give Ms. Sheehan a kiss for us. |
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bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
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join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO
| reply to theeinstein
said by theeinstein :I think a technical term for this would be "we have them by the Balls"!! Given the history of deployment here in the States, I think the correct phrase is "we have them by the Bells." 
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