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calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

reply to PDXPLT
Re: Who Cares

said by PDXPLT See Profile :

Hmmm... So the ITU's 170-year track record of developing telecom standards is a "disaster"? Who do you think is responsible for the fact that you can pick up just about any phone in the world, punch in a few numbers, and reach just about any other phone?

You should try to learn at least a little about the issue your talking about, before commenting on it. ...
I'd think the ITU did a non-cruddy job if I could just "punch in a few numbers". Instead, I have to carry a long list of "country codes", a separate list of "international dial out codes" and various notes about when to pause, when to speed things up by hitting "#", etc.

Aside from problems involving the UN's tremendous desire to control something they could turn into a cash cow to fund corruption now that "oil for food" is past, I don't want to have to remember that to reach websites in part of the former Yugoslavia I have to type "gttp://" because folks in that region are offended that "http" used to stand for "Hail To Tito's Papa" or some other such "politically correct" cr@p that the UN so excels at.

(Also, for future clarity, you might explore the difference between "your" and "you're".)

calvoiper
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justncredible

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reply to fiberguy
yes learn about the real issue,,, and that would be the pissant euro trash country's wanting to control information. The last thing these governments want is a informed public. You think is the only country trying to block information,,,umm hell no. If just a few of the french could read and understand what we in this country have, they would revolt. Keep the people ignorant, that is the only hope for socialist regimes.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

reply to PDXPLT
"You should try to learn at least a little about the issue your talking about, before commenting on it. Spouting off ideological pronouncements from a position of ingorance, that may be wholly inappropriate to the specific issue at hand, adds nothing to the discussion."

Bravo! Way to go! You told that 'no-body' with an 'opion' off but good, now didn't you? Who died and left you moderator.

Instead of bashing him for his opinion, and you yourself looking like a power hungry superiority ingorant person yourself in an open and free forum, why don't you just lay out the facts?

What I saw in his post was, like many people in American, is that he doesn't like or trust the U.N. - many people believe that the U.N. is nothing more than the old disbanded League of Nations.

To the small time that the U.N. has held the ITU as a specialized unit, telecommunications may be running O.K., but there are many other areas where people believe the U.N. is corrupt and ineffective. I thend to look at the over all picture when judging any 'body' instead of just one small area. It's how everyone is looked at - no different that when people look at your credit score. You can have one great 10 yera history on your home loan and suck and keeping your creidt cards and other bills paid. Doesn't make you a good risk.

Like many others say, if the internet ain't broke, don't fix and, and it ain't broke.

averagedude

join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
reply to PDXPLT
IMO there is a difference between creating standards and running/regulating things.

I am all for standards, be it business or the UN ITU.
At this time I just don't trust the UN to running/regulating the internet.

PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

[Keeping the UN from ruining the internet is the best thing that could happen. The UN can't run anything without turning it into a disaster.
Hmmm... So the ITU's 170-year track record of developing telecom standards is a "disaster"? Who do you think is responsible for the fact that you can pick up just about any phone in the world, punch in a few numbers, and reach just about any other phone?

You should try to learn at least a little about the issue your talking about, before commenting on it. Spouting off ideological pronouncements from a position of ingorance, that may be wholly inappropriate to the specific issue at hand, adds nothing to the discussion.

As it is, it looks like this standoff is leading to a second DNS system: one controlled by whoever happens to be in the White House at the time, and one by an intergovernmental body. 'not surprising these days that most of the world is alot more comfortable with one than the other.
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