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richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

No Basic Right

Mr. Gavin is wrong about "fundamental right to have access universally to information" If this is true I have a right to see Mr. Gavin's Credit, Banking and Medical Records.

Rights are immaterial by nature, a person has a right to free speech but does not have a right demand me to purchase the person a sound system in support of a persons right to free speech.

This does put a face on the muni WI-FI debate. Muni WI-FI is about the liberals hate of Capitalism.


obiwan
Your No Jedi
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join:2003-01-19
Stockton, CA
He's a tool, of course look at what he is the mayor of.


badtrip
East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
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Although I agree that free wifi isn't a right as the idea of rights are normally defined, I do believe that internet access should be cheap enough for everyone to have at the very least. Ideally, it should be free.

Now when I say internet access should be free I don't necessarily mean a 4 megabit pipe up and down for every man, woman and child, I mean low bandwidth, maybe ~ISDN speed, enough to stream low-quality video. Wifi makes this option cheaper than a regular wired connection on large scales. If ppl want to play BF2 with 10 ms pings or download at some crazy speed, then they could pay for a better connection.

The internet is, IMO, one of the most valuable resources we as humans have at our disposal. The educational benefits alone are too many and profound to discuss here but allow me to offer one thought: a cheap (or free) college level education for everyone.

Of course this is coming from "some wacko lefty" living in "The People's Republic of Berkeley" who thinks that basic shelter, clothing, food and secondary education should also be free and accessible for everyone who lives in the richest (and IMO, the greatest) nation on the planet.

bmn
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said by richardpor See Profile :

Mr. Gavin is wrong about "fundamental right to have access universally to information" If this is true I have a right to see Mr. Gavin's Credit, Banking and Medical Records.
No, because he has the right to control access to his information because its not public information.

Access to publically available information is a right, however, that does not mean people have a right to the means to access that information mean that people don't have a right to Wi-Fi or DSL or a cable modem or a laptop.

This does put a face on the muni WI-FI debate. Muni WI-FI is about the liberals hate of Capitalism.
Yeah, every thing basically boils down to "liberals hate of capitalism." You have to love such myopic and politically motivate reasoning.
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