Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | reply to inSWwi
Re: [TWC] Level3 breaks public peering
Rebooting your PC will solve nothing. This issue is NOT local to your box. |
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Kip patterson
Premium
join:2000-10-23
Columbus, OH
1 edit | Well, it could be. users need to purge the DNS cache to get rid of invalid entries for sites that have relocated as well as empty entries for those that were unreachable. |
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DprssdIsntFn
Premium
join:2004-01-12
Pompton Lakes, NJ
| reply to Just Bob
said by Just Bob  :» www.tampabay.rr.com/NetworkStatus/index.cfmMissing Posts in Newsgroups: Road Runner currently peers with over 50 different ISPs and NNTP services to ensure that users receive as many postings as possible. Road Runner cannot guarantee, however, that we will receive every post to every group, or that every post will be complete. Huh. I wasn't aware of that.
I have my mother hooked up with brighthouse networks {tampabay.rr.com} in Lakeland, FL. She has definitely been affected.
I'm wondering if RR's peering is limited to newsgroups or if they never set up their NOC correctly for failover. I'm guessing from the marketspeak that they're only describing newsgroup peering. They do have exceptional newsgroup access.
I'd suggest that their Tier 1 connections are essentially limited in nature even with the above quote. But I can't tell from here.
Thanks for pointing that out.  |
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drpcfix
@covad.net
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| reply to jchin
Time for a class action law suit. This kind of action is completely irresponsible. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to jchin
I didn't know about this until now. Hasn't bothered me one bit. I'm very happy to see the increased ATDN usage. Here's what Hawaii RR has to say about it: |
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hypercooljak
join:2003-09-12
Appleton, WI
clubs: | reply to drpcfix
said by drpcfix :
Time for a class action law suit. This kind of action is completely irresponsible.
Against who? |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
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| reply to Kip patterson
I just tried photobucket, drudge, yousendit, filefront, and weatherunderground and reached all them fine. I have NOT rebooted my PC. I doubt my PC is better or smarter than anyone else's.  |
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rmartin123
join:2000-06-19
Dayton, OH
clubs:
| said by Hall :I just tried photobucket, drudge, yousendit, filefront, and weatherunderground and reached all them fine. I have NOT rebooted my PC. I doubt my PC is better or smarter than anyone else's. Can you still get to them today hall? I am not sure if I am on the same NODE as you here in WOH, but I can not get to any of those sites, except drudge (which changed hosts) today. |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | I tried those sites in another tab as I posted that message. |
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byebyeRR
@rr.com |  reply to jchin
routing fixed here.. i even am seeing radicaly increased speeds (300Kbps) even from my remote dialup COOL!!!
...lol! |
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longmire
join:2002-10-05
Houston, TX
·Comcast
| reply to jchin
After scrolling through this through morning coffee, I decided to run a couple of tracert's to affected urls. No mer level3 routers anywhere! And the latency is much less.
Maybe this was "a good thing" -- you know, like Martha Stewart's "vacation retreat", or a vaccination!  |
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Kip patterson
Premium
join:2000-10-23
Columbus, OH
2 edits | reply to Hall
Interesting. I can't get to any of them other than Drudge who has moved to a new server not part of cogent. Could you recheck to see if they have once again disappeared?
Edit: You don't suppose someone else cut them off? I can't get to what I reached yesterday. I can reach Verio, but it appears that they are no longer announcing Cogent. |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | Now I can't reach them. I could before, honestly. |
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Kip patterson
Premium
join:2000-10-23
Columbus, OH
1 edit | i believe you. So could I.
Edit: I found that CENIC, att, savvis, and adelphia can all reach Cogent, reinforcing my guess that Verio also cut the string. |
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sunsfires
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Luzerne, PA
1 edit | reply to jchin
»status.cogentco.com/
»www.cogentco.com/htdocs/press.ph···on_id=62
Also, please note that traffic between Cogent and Road Runner/Time Warner cable has been restored at this time.
Level 3* has partitioned its part of the Internet from Cogent's part of the Internet by denying Level 3's customers access to Cogent's customers and denying Cogent's customers access to Level 3 customers.
Cogent’s Standing Offer to Level 3: Turn the Connection Back On, Then Negotiate
Cogent Wants to Eliminate Global Impact to Customers
Washington, D.C., October 7, 2005
Cogent Communications Group, Inc. (AMEX: COI), a Tier 1 Internet Service provider, is requesting that Level 3 turn their side of the companies’ Internet backbone peering connection back on immediately to thwart any further disruption of mutual customers’ Internet service. Once traffic is being exchanged between the two networks, Cogent will discuss the peering situation with Level 3,anytime, anywhere.
Cogent’s CEO Dave Schaeffer stated, “We feel this situation can easily be resolved without more impact to the customers of either company. The seriousness of the situation has been made abundantly clear, and for the sake of Internet users, Level 3 should turn the connection back on and both parties should sit down at the table to discuss the situation.”
Mr. Schaeffer went on to say, “In fact, Cogent is willing to offer Level 3 free Internet service across our network to help alleviate their financial situation while also discussing appropriate traffic ratios. Cogent feels allegations of inappropriate traffic ratios have been incorrectly articulated by Level 3. In fact, it is Level 3 who requested that Cogent send more traffic across their network since Level 3 charges by the bit, and increased traffic flow helps them financially.”
“Cogent’s connection to Level 3 remains open, on and ready to accept their traffic. There is no situation that prevents them from turning on the connection other than a mindset that is willing to sacrifice customer connectivity at this specific point in time. Cogent feels that Internet users deserve better treatment while this situation is ironed out. That is why Cogent is appealing directly to Level 3 single-homed customers and offering them one year of free, dedicated Internet access to provide them with access to the full Internet, not just the Level 3 portion of it. This offer bypasses the problem, helps the customer attain full access to the Internet and eliminates the roadblock to Cogent’s portion of the Internet. Cogent has already had significant success with this offer and will continue to make it available as long as the peering connection remains turned off by Level 3.”
Level 3 terminated its peering with Cogent without cause (as permitted under its peering agreement with Cogent) even though both Cogent and Level 3 remained in full compliance with the previously existing interconnection agreement.
Many Level 3 customers can still exchange traffic with Cogent customers because the Level 3 customer is multi- homed, i.e. it also has a connection to Cogent or to one of the many other networks with which Cogent has a peering relationship.
As described below Cogent is offering a solution to Level 3 customers that are not multi-homed. Cogent will offer any Level 3 customer, who is single homed to the Level 3 network as of October 5, 2005, one year of full Internet transit free of charge at the same bandwidth currently being supplied by Level 3. Cogent will provide this connectivity in over 1,000 locations throughout North America and Europe. Cogent is committed to an open Internet.
The existing interconnection facilities between Level 3 and Cogent remain intact. Cogent hopes that Level 3 will reactivate these connections, restoring a full level of service to their customers. *Level 3 is a communications services company headquartered in Broomfield, Colorado. Like Cogent, it operates one of the largest communications and Internet backbones in the world. |
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Kip patterson
Premium
join:2000-10-23
Columbus, OH | Nope, it is once again down. |
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA | I am ready to spit up nails. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| Interesting in that Time Warner is denying there was ever actually a problem:
»www.isp-planet.com/business/2005···l_3.html
"This issue did not and does not effect Road Runner customers."
Kind of semantics. Not directly, but clearly our routing was impacted. Unless all of you (and myself) are hallucinating. |
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA | Whatever made it better yesterday and early in the morning today its now not good anymore. |
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imtim83
You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
| Just when I thought nothing worst than Hurricane Katrina and Rita, and high gas prices then just about the whole internet goes out because of these dumb companies.
I would of never thought.
Two Cat. 5 hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico in the period of less than a month which has never ever happen.
Then the whole internet just about goes out.
I should of saw this coming!
Everything else is downhill from here.
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