ZOverLord
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join:2003-10-20
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection
Quick Combination test for Speed, Packet Loss, QoS, Jitter, VoIP Simulation:
»myvoipspeed.visualware.com/
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rizzo2dial
Premium
join:2004-08-05 | reply to speedy3k
I'll have to test this out to see how well it works! Thanks for posting the MS Bridging workaround. 
Rizzo |
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speedy3k
@bellsouth.net
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I found a solution for bridging the connection instead of using ICS. So far it works well and I haven't had a problem with my packet8. I hope this helps.
Bring up a command prompt
1. At a command prompt, type netsh bridge show adapter.
2. Locate the identification number of the NIC that is not responding.
3. If the NIC is not in Compatibility mode, you can change it manually if you type the following command, where 1 is the number of the NIC that is displayed in the first step:
netsh bridge set a 1 e
4. Run the netsh bridge show adapter command again to verify that the ForceCompatabilityMode field for the NIC is displayed as Enabled.
You may have to do this for both the wireless adapter and the nic.
»support.microsoft.com/default.as···Q302348& |
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tiredtechie
join:2005-02-21
Toronto, ON
 ·Bell Sympatico
| reply to dajabon
Wireless VoIP phones
My 2c:
I had a Linksys WIP330 and it was so bad that I returned it to the supplier. However there is a new firmware available for it on voip-info.org . I have a UTstarcom F3000 flip phone on the way - I'll let you guys know how it works. The F3000 is referred to as a 2nd gen voip wireless phone, so i have high hopes!
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ilhy
join:2005-11-07
Detroit, MI | reply to rizzo2dial
Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection
Thanks a lot, Rizzo! |
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rizzo2dial
Premium
join:2004-08-05
| reply to ilhy
said by ilhy  :Thanks for your reply. In option 2, could I shutdown my pc after authentication or I have to keep it running 24/7? Thanks in advance! This sentence from my previous response already answered that question:
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Then, with a PC/laptop (temporarily) hooked up to one of the WRT54G's LAN ports...
You only need the PC/laptop hooked up whenever you need to authenticate the wifi connection. In many places, wifi connections remain authenticated so long as there's activity taking place across the connection. With the ATA sending registration requests every few minutes, that would hopefully keep the wifi connection "active" (and thus authenticated). If you're lucky, you'll only have to authenticate once.
Some wifi systems, however, require re-authentication every 24 hours regardless of wifi activity. In that the case you'll need to re-connect the PC/laptop every 24 hours to re-authenticate.
Rizzo |
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ilhy
join:2005-11-07
Detroit, MI | reply to rizzo2dial
Thanks for your reply.
In option 2, could I shutdown my pc after authentication or I have to keep it running 24/7?
Thanks in advance! |
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rizzo2dial
Premium
join:2004-08-05
| reply to ilhy
said by ilhy :How to use a ATA in a password protected(not security,have to enter userid and password) wireless network? That depends on how you intend to connect the ATA to the wirless network in the first place.
If you go the ICS route, simply authenticate (via username/psasword) the wifi connection on the PC/laptop running ICS.
If you don't want to be tethered to a PC/laptop, use a Linksys WRT54G (or WRT54GS) router loaded w/ 3rd party firmware which supports "Client" mode wifi connections. Such connections:
1) convert the router into a Wifi bridge (on the WAN side)
2) provide a NAT'd interface on the LAN side so that multiple "devices" can share the "Client WAN" wifi connection (at least this was how my WRT54G behaved unde Sveasoft Alchemy).
Then, with a PC/laptop (temporarily) hooked up to one of the WRT54G's LAN ports and the ATA hooked up to another of the WRT54G's LAN ports, authenticate the wifi connection on the PC/laptop (using the username/password). That will authenticate the "Client WAN" side of the router to the wifi network. All devices NAT'd behind that connection (i.e. all devices on the LAN side of the WRT54G) will now share that "authenticated WAN" connection. Your ATA should be able to work thereafter. It will also hopefully keep your Wifi connection "authenticated" 24/7 as it'll presumably be sending VoIP registration requests to the VoSP every few minutes.
Rizzo |
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ilhy
join:2005-11-07
Detroit, MI | reply to dajabon
How to use a ATA in a password protected(not security,have to enter userid and password) wireless network? |
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usa2k
Please PRAY for Rebekah
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
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|  reply to hillsdalebob
Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection..
ICS is likely providing NAT behind NAT from the wireless router. (Never used ICS - always a router.) That may not work well for all providers.
Just guessing.
Vonage used to caution against ICS because it only had an 8 minute lease time, and you could get dropped. Packet8 always encouraged ICS.
Ideally you could use an Access Point to a switch, and Vonage and SunRocket (was it?) could each pull an IP from the wireless router. Then its just one NAT occurring. That would free your computer too.
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hillsdalebob
join:2006-05-15
Hillsdale, MI
3 edits | reply to dajabon
Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection
I live in an apartment building in which the owners provide free wireless internet access. I have been using an older laptop that has wireless and ethernet built in to setup ICS. The notebook picks up the wireless signal and feeds the signal to my vonage VOIP adapter/router via an ethernet cable. Works GREAT. I plug my phone into the Vonage device and the phone signal is fine. I can also plug a second computer into the Vonage device's LAN port via an ethernet cable and the second computer picks up the internet just fine.
I just got a Sunrocket Gizmo. When I hook it up the same way my vonage adapter is hooked up (using ICS) the router part of it works fine (it will pick up the internet signal and pass it on to the second computer) but the VOIP light just keeps flashing red and I get no dial tone when I plug my phone in. I tried using a crossover cable - same results. The Gizmo works fine when I go to a friend's house and use it with his cable modem - even if I put it behind his router.
Very strange - Vonage adapter works fine, Sunrocket Gizmo does not.
Any ideas? |
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NoBridge
join:2006-05-10
Oakville, ON | reply to informpage
Please comment on this discussion which is directly related to this topic. |
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informpage
Never Be Satisfied
join:2003-07-09
Forest Hills, NY
| reply to dajabon
Just a note to others: It can be done very easily.
I've been sharing a connection with my neighbor, we use a WRT54G and a Netgear WGE101 which has been the stablest bridge I've used. The interface is rather lame and it only does WEP, but it generally will run months without needing to be reset while connecting a good 5 computers on my end, plus VoIP and P2P apps.
With my Vonage service this set up ran virtually flawless for two years in conjunction with the Moto Box. We share a common wall so signal strength is good.
I will say, I've tested numerous other VoIP set ups with this set up and seemed to always have jitter and dropped packets, but with Vonage and the Moto box, it ran like a charm. Hope this encourages others. |
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Strider888
@ubc.ca | reply to dajabon
Hi guys, do I really need to have two wireless routers for this? Like one act as a bridge or repeater while the other act as a router? I'm thinking of moving to vonage myself. |
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IhateVonage
join:2006-03-28
Costa Mesa, CA
| reply to dajabon
WRT54GS v2.1 w/ DD-WRT v23 final STD as AP in G-only
WRT54GS v2.1 w/ DD-WRT v23 final STD as wireless client in G-only
Connect "voip gizmo" to wireless client. Enable QoS in AP giving premium priority to "voip gizmo". Give "voip gizmo" a static address either as such or via static DHCP (reservation). tada!
Optionally explore the DD-WRT v23 VoIP firmware 
dd-wrt.com
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bellagio
Premium
join:2005-01-02
Yonkers, NY
| reply to dajabon
I will, my axim x30 does not have a built in wireless and it doesn't seem like I can add one. I should have looked before I posted. I'm going to have to buy another PDA that has built in wireless. If anyone wants a x30 basic or a full gps system, it's for sale in the for sale section. |
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Yippz Voip
join:2005-05-04
Atlanta, GA
| reply to bellagio
My Axim is a X3i with built-in wireless. I have heard that the wireless cards that plug into the SD slot in the top of the unit work just as well.
I find amazing that it works so well. Now if Vonage will just open their SIP info I'd really be rockin'. When I was in downtown Vicksburg, MS their downtown area was covered in WI-FI ZONE signs... Wish I had tested it while walking around the historic downtown area.
Post your experiences when you test it. It's just so cool!! |
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bellagio
Premium
join:2005-01-02
Yonkers, NY
| reply to Yippz Voip
That is awesome man. I can't wait to try it out. The axim I have does not have built in wireless however so I have to either get a wireless card for it or sell this pda and get a pda with built in wireless.
Does your PDA have built in wireless? Do you recommend any wireless cards for PDAs? |
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Yippz Voip
join:2005-05-04
Atlanta, GA
| reply to bellagio
said by bellagio :Your Axim setup is pretty sweet. And you are saying that the quality is very good? What do you use for a headphone or headset? Or do you just use the microphone from the PDA and just any speakers? Thanks... Just used it from a 2 hotels, in 2 different towns in Mississippi. Since 99% of the places I passed all offer free hi-speed wireless internet this will work pretty much everywhere. In the first place I got about a 57% signal from the room -- the second place had 6 access points around the hotel so I got 100% from everywhere except the elevator, where I got 88%. Pretty nice to walk around the hotel on the VOIP phone without dropping a call... Bye bye cell!!
Using the stereo headphones I use for MP3 play (Sony) I get to hear the call in clear stereo (amazing how much you really hear!!) The Axim I have doesn't allow for a headset mic so I hold the Axim or place it on a table when speaking. Callers say the quality is so life-like that both people I spoke with compared it to ''being on an extension in the same house''.
With both hotels the calls never dropped (total call time for both days was over 2 hours) and the battery on the Axim went down to around 70% both days at maximum processor speed (400 mhz).
Bottom line -- can't beat a free US-CAN phone from anywhere in the world... |
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